It was good, Beloved. I was the lay leader (reader) this morning, and I enjoyed taking part. We scaled the order of service back a little, and viewed only one of the videos. It was still a long service, but very meaningful. I especially liked the children's participation with the evergreen branches and the sprinkles of water.
It was also interesting to have communion with the common loaf, after learning about it here on wondercafe.
It was called Dare to Be, and it was about the history of the United Church. There are two other videos - - one is a message from the Moderator. We used the order of service that was created for congregations to use this Sunday. It was written by two people in Saskatchewan, and the idea was for everyone to use it for today's worship. I think the order of service suggested viewing all three videos, but as I said, we scaled back a little on a few things.
We used bits and pieces of the service that came, as well as parts 2 and 3 (the Dare to Be segments) of the DVD, plus communion with the Common Loaf being used. Seemed to work out fairly well.
It was called Dare to Be, and it was about the history of the United Church.
Yes, I watched the whole DVD, paradox3, I mentioned it in church (we did not watch it) and I encouraged everyone in our congregation to take it home, especially to watch the "Dare to Be" segment - I thougth it was great.
Today our church had planned to do the church picnic, and joined with another United Church to do so (we are learning about cooperating congregations). From when we had planned until now, lots of things had occurred, including finding out that it was the Anniversary Sunday, and that our minister would be off on medical leave.
I utilized the 85th service that was so well put together. I agree, the children loved doing the baptism...and so did the adults love getting baptised. In fact, we missed a bunch, and they said -- heh, you missed me...and the kids had to go back & get them.
In addition, though we didn't have communion, the children offered the bannock to the people in the congregation,..and it was well received.
People enjoyed the music, and seemed quite happy to be together and say "yes, we remember" They remembered as well the sense of welcome to this place.
We were disappointed in the weather. It was cold, wet & rainy, and we were to be outside for the service and the picnic that followed...but the group stuck it out and we met in the hall. Over 125 people came together -- not bad considering it was a joint service...(sometimes scares people away), it was a picnic service (often scares people away), it was rainy (scares even the picnic people away!), and I was co-leading the service (heh..it wasn't the minister..)..and a favourite minister who grew up at our church was having his retirement / last service today...(clearly another good reason to miss)
anyhow, although I am tired, I am glad it came together.
Hey, I didn't realize that the early part of our service, with the remembering and the response of "Yes, we remember" was part of a national service. Great! Now I feel more involved. The very first remembrance for our congregation was rather special. The minister told us that he checked the records and found out that five babies had been baptized that summer. As he read the names, he asked that they please stand. First name, pause, look around, no one standing. Second name, the same. Third and Fourth. Then he read the fifth name and a ripple went through the congregation as the woman sitting directly in front of me stood up. She was invited to the front of the church to say a few words. She pointed to her sister still sitting in the pew. 'That's where we sat. My three sisters, my brother and me. We had to sit there so that our father, up in the choir loft (she pointed) could keep an eye on us.' 'We came to church in the morning. Sunday School in the afternoon. Evening service. Every week.'
I helped to serve communion, assisted by a girl from the middle school class. The Sunday School children had made the bannock during the early part of the service. It was very meaningful to know that it was being shared all across Canada.
I'm glad to hear that other congregations used it.
Hey, I didn't realize that the early part of our service, with the remembering and the response of "Yes, we remember" was part of a national service. Great! Now I feel more involved. The very first remembrance for our congregation was rather special. The minister told us that he checked the records and found out that five babies had been baptized that summer. As he read the names, he asked that they please stand. First name, pause, look around, no one standing. Second name, the same. Third and Fourth. Then he read the fifth name and a ripple went through the congregation as the woman sitting directly in front of me stood up. She was invited to the front of the church to say a few words. She pointed to her sister still sitting in the pew. 'That's where we sat. My three sisters, my brother and me. We had to sit there so that our father, up in the choir loft (she pointed) could keep an eye on us.' 'We came to church in the morning. Sunday School in the afternoon. Evening service. Every week.'
I had a number of members speak to me after church, recalling their participation in the procession from one church to another on that first Sunday. A number of the churches still are active; some have closed.
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I helped to serve communion, assisted by a girl from the middle school class. The Sunday School children had made the bannock during the early part of the service. It was very meaningful to know that it was being shared all across Canada.
I'm glad to hear that other congregations used it.
We never received the flour mix. None of other colleagues in this city mentioned it, either.
Is today your celebration day? Again, congratulations UCC.
I shall have to take some time to reflect on my family's own involvement in your denomination. I have some fairly deep roots in the United Church of Canada. My grandparents on my mother's side were members, and a cousin and her daughter were United Church missionaries to South Korea. My mother is still an adherent of your denom, as is one sister and her family. My youngest sister flew up from Dallas just to get her baby baptized in the United Church we attended as children. It was in the United Church that my Dad first started performing magic, which later became his career.
I believe I shall commemorate the big anniversary by reading the History of the New Mills Pastoral Charge, written a number of years ago by one of my aunts.
Our church service this morning was a celebration! We had lots of fun. Our sanctuary was decorated with helium balloons with "Happy Anniversary" on them as well as several banners throughout the sanctuary. The first part of our service was focused on worship and prayer, and the second part was focused on fun - as in a "How Well Do You Know The United Church of Canada?" game.
The parts of our service that were gleaned from the 85th Anniversary information were: a) used part of the prayer and incorporated some of my own b) Sharing The Loaf, although we couldn't have communion I had one of the ladies from our church bake the loaf from the packet we received and I talked about the loaf and the remembrance of the communion service - each person was encouraged if they so wished to take a piece of the bread and dip it in grape juice as they left the sanctuary and reflect on Jesus and their faith as they so chose to c) We used the bulletin cover and A New Creed bookmarks and recited it together d) we prayed the Unison Sunday Prayer together d) we used the Scripture reading that was used at the inaugural service of UCC e) the names of our connections in the Making Connections endeavour were shared and prayed for and I mentioned the contact we had with both churches, I also shared that a "Greetings" newsletter was sent from our church to theirs telling us a little bit about ourselves and how we were celebrating the 85th.
The sermon part of the service was a game entitled "How Well Do You Know The United Church of Canada?" with two teams and a variety of questions about The UCC and our own church. The score ended as 1500 to 1300 - but I gave the 1300 point team a handicap as the power point presentation was shown on a wall that the other side could see better - so the game ended in a draw. All participated in the prize which was a fellowship luncheon following the service. Little sandwiches, dainties, etc. as well as the remainder of the shared loaf for those that wanted to have some more.
One of the questions directed to both teams was whether there was anyone born on or before June 10, 1925 present - we had 4 people on one side stand and one person on the other. We had one person who was born on June 10th, but not in 1925.
I think everyone there had a good time in our celebration.
We did not do the "yes, we remember" as described by pinga above . . . it did sound like a meaningful part of worship time though. pinga, it sounds like the baptism part went over very well. Too bad the picnic part got rained out - but wow - 125 people - that's awesome.
Thanks for sharing your baptism story, seeler! I agree with you, I also think it was very meaningful that the bannock (Shared Loaf) was shared with and available for all congregations across Canada - it would be interesting to know how many used it or will use it at some celebratory service.
Tabitha, I think that's great that the youth were involved in the bannock making/baking (also in seeler's church). That's a nice way to involve them. Unfortunately we had no children/youth at church. At our church they don't come after Sunday School wind-up, which was at the end of May . . . it's sad, but unfortunately that is the way it is.
So Beloved why does Sunday school finish in May? I know it can be a chicken and egg question. It finshes because the kids stop coming/ the kids stop coming because there is no Sunday school.
Our sunday school is still on and will stop for July/ Aug and probably first 2 weeks of Sept.
At one time regular Sunday School ended in May and we had summer Sunday School for the month of June - a little less structured and fewer teachers required. Because we are short of teachers (and students also - we are a "diminshing" congregation) their desire was to go only til the end of May - very few children came in June for a variety of reasons - sports scheduled in the community (ball and soccer - we have a very short season here), cottage season, etc.
Wasn't in church today and probably would have gone to my UU if I had. To celebrate the occasion, I'll share a verse from a hymn written by my grandfather. (Tune: Aurelia).
O come ye to the Father
O come ye to the Son
O come ye to the Spirit
And with Him be one.
Then go ye forth to others
His love with them to share,
That we may be united
With His folk everywhere.
- from "Hymn" in Pastoral Poems & Parson's Lyric, by Rev. Dr. H. W. Vaughan
Congratulations, UCC. And I, for one, do hope you're still around in another 85 years.
DKS - I feel bad that your congregation and others in your region did not receive the starter packets. I'm sure the intention was to send them to every pastoral charge in Canada. I'd ask Chris Levan about it, but he is gone, headed for his new congregation in TO.
We met with 5 neighbouring congregations and shared in worship, fellowship, and lunch. We talked about the past, present, and hope for the future. It again became apparent we cannot be innocent bystanders and we journey into the future!
That sounds like it would be quite a gathering, amc_1980. On this anniversary we must not only look back, but focus on the hope for the future and the journey into the future is so important.
our anniversary celebration will be next Sunday as we gather together with six (??) other United Churches from the area in our sancturay. I don't know how much of the national stuff we'll be doing because we have a special guest speaker (Rev. Lorne Calvert) and several musical guests.
Our congregation received the starter mix and used it in the bannock for communion. We also showed the "Dare to Be" video on our screen, despite the fact that a gaping big hole in the historical presentation was the failure to mention the joining of the EUB (evangelical united brethren) congregations in 1968. I mentioned this beforehand to our minister (who actually came from an EUB family, as did I), so she made a big point of it in her sermon!
despite the fact that a gaping big hole in the historical presentation was the failure to mention the joining of the EUB (evangelical united brethren) congregations in 1968.
Thanks for sharing this spiritbear . . . I will have to go back in my research and reading and check this out too, as I did not mention it either.
Oh, DKS - I see you posted that you, and other colleagues in your area, didn't receive the packet - that's sad.
Well, stuff happens. I didn't make much use of the anniversary resources, either. I'm finding more and more disconnect with the resources our national office produces. Way too Unitarian for my theological perspective. I found solid theology lacking in the Great Thanksgiving prayer. It could have been a lot better. I'm a generation removed in liturgical practice from what is currently being taught. I find much of what is being done today to be thin gruel.
On the positive side, we participated in Doors Open in our city yesterday and today, and had many visitors. It's the centennial of our building. All kinds of neat stories there.
Northern Lights Presbytery had a big celebration at the UCC in Grande Prairie (St Paul's?). Our presbytery is a large one, possibly the largest geographically, in Canada. It includes Yellowknife, Whitehorse, Alberta from about Valleyview north, and the Peace/Liard region in BC. Everyone was invited, but of course not all came. Five of us from our congregation attended. We decided to camp in GP last night and had a wonderful time there.
Now, you campers probably know that when camping we go into slow gear. As a result, we got to the church about five minutes late. I am not sure what happened during those first five or so minutes. We did not see any DVD's. There were several clergy in attendance, from GP, Yellowknife, Valleyview, Spirit River, Beaverlodge and one other who was from Alberta somewhere I believe. They all participated. There was a large choir which may have included people from the area.The music was wonderful and was a mixture of old and new. I loved the new hymns I learned from More Voices. The minister of the GP church did a reflection on the history of the UCC and the minister from Yellowknife who is also the chair of Alberta and Northwest conference, gave the main reflection. He spoke of how things have changed since 1925 and about "Singing our Future". The entire service took about two hours. It did include a communion and I believe the bread for the communion was the shared loaf.
I wasn't sure if I wanted to celebrate the anniversary of the UCC actually. I have been pondering how we seem to be more interested in celebrating an institution and worshipping a church rather than being followers of Christ. My "we" includes more than UCC people because it seems that all the churches seem to be this way. It is human nature. Anyway, I am glad I attended. It really reminded me why I attend the UCC and for me, highlighted the principles and values we share, or are supposed to share in the UCC.....social justice, inclusiveness, etc. It made me wonder what our ancestors would say about the state of the church they created.
Our congregation is having a retreat next Saturday to start to figure out where we want to head in the future. I feel like I have more to bring to that retreat, at least for myself anyway.
I do wonder at the same time about the future of our UCC. There was an awful lot of grey hair in the congregation today. I would imagine over half the congregation was over sixty. At least I was not one of the youngest people there at age 53.
The minister did a short message after the word -- using a section from Rev. Moss's preaching at Hamilton Conference.....in reference to Moses, then Joshua....."that was then...this is now"..and reminded us as we celebrated the years..and we remembered...that was then...this is now.
Good to hear all the stories of the 85th from across our country. I hope they keep coming.
I had a hunt for our flour...it was a much smaller package than I expected, and had been through multiple hands..between committees and office...but, through a series of handoffs we got it to the bakers who made the bannock...it was great. ...I heard that our flour came from a local flour mill -- Dover Mills in Cambridge (Preston), so you who had bannock today, know that a grain may have been from there.
Well, I think it was pretty fine. I baked the bannock--could have asked a member of the UCW but wanted the privilege myself--it felt kind of special. I used some of the resources, massaged to fit our circumstances; people seemed to enjoy the 'we remember' part. I used one of our more old-fashioned communion inserts, we served in the pews and I mentioned the manner of partaking all at once as a further sign of unity. We used several of the older hymns and our organist "cranked it"--we have a good electronic organ that sounds fantastic when it's set as a big organ--and we loved that. The bannock was o.k. for communion; but after the service we had a BBQ for board members and their families and we served the remainder in chunks with a jar of apple jelly to add to it and THAT was GOOD. Will try having it for breakfast tomorrow too!
The church is so special to me, I couldn't help but enjoy the celebration. Our history is so big now we can't begin to know it all, but it's good to glance at it and remember who we are.
I missed most of it (slept in due to my friend's saturday night birthday party). Only saw the last half hour of service. I made it in time for communion with the common loaf. First time celebrating communion in a long time actually.
After church, however, we went to a very large fundraiser for homeless youth in Hamilton. It was a 4 km walk through a gorgeous park by the waterfront. Our church was a pacesetting group, and most of the United Churches, Presbyterian and some Anglican churches in the area walked too. At the end of the day everyone raised $100,000 for youth temporary housing, shelters, summer camp, teen drop in centres, etc. The walk was really nice.
Northwind, you'll have to let us know how your retreat goes. I wonder about the future of the United Church I am a part of - lots of grey hair in our congregation also, and unfortunately not very many under the age of 50. Thanks for sharing about your presbytery and your service.
"that was then . . . this is now . . ." I wonder if the church today is what those who gathered at the inaugural service would have envisioned it would become.
Hey weeze I was wishing we would have had some jelly or jam for our loaf at the luncheon - apple jelly sounds good. You mentioned "organist" . . . I wonder how many churches still have organists that play the organ. We have an organ, but no one to play it - all our accompanists play the electric keyboard. Our young accompanist is taking organ lessons and has played one or two hymns on the organ which makes many in our congregation quite happy as it hasn't been played for years.
Wow, that's an impressive amount to fundraise Kinst. A walk in a park by a waterfront sounds like a good way to celebrate, an anniversary, and life in general.
Hey weeze I was wishing we would have had some jelly or jam for our loaf at the luncheon - apple jelly sounds good. You mentioned "organist" . . . I wonder how many churches still have organists that play the organ. We have an organ, but no one to play it - all our accompanists play the electric keyboard. Our young accompanist is taking organ lessons and has played one or two hymns on the organ which makes many in our congregation quite happy as it hasn't been played for years.
All of the United Churches (four) in our city have large pipe organs (two are Casevants and one is one of the first Casevants installed in Ontario) and many competent people to play them. So do the Anglicans, Lutherans and Roman Catholics.
We have an organ, but no one to play it - all our accompanists play the electric keyboard. Our young accompanist is taking organ lessons and has played one or two hymns on the organ which makes many in our congregation quite happy as it hasn't been played for years.
First St. Andrews, the UCC I attend, has a beautiful 1960s era Casavant and an excellent organist to play it. Problem is, I seem to be losing my taste for organ music or something. I find it too loud (that may be his fault, of course) and a little bombastic at times. They also have a nice baby grand at the front and I wish they'd use it a bit more and ease off on the organ a bit.
My UU Fellowship has a nice little electric piano and two good pianists to play it (one a student at the local Faculty of Music, the other a grad of said faculty) and I quite like that approach. I don't miss the organ at all.
One of the reasons I keep doing both is it gives me a bit more variety musically.
Note to Tabitha: my Dad was part of the group who got a new organ for our family church in Kitchener (late eighties). I don't recall that there much fuss over the expenditure, but the choir did do a lot of extra fundraising to pay for adding a trumpet stop that wasn't covered in the original project budget. Funnily enough, Dad became Lutheran after he remarried in the late nineties and ended up on their organ committee. Deja vu all over again.
Yes, Dare To Be was wonderful, but the thought that kept coming to me was "WAS". It just sounded so much like a how great we were story, rather than a how great we are, or will be, story. That and some articles in the latest Observer left me in not the the mood I would have expected for a BDay celebration.
We are celebrating this Sunday coming, and the one following. It is anniversary Sunday for one of the points in the charge, and we have a fantastic guest preacher coming. She will be preaching about Ashton's anniversary, but I am told she intends to weave in threads about the denomination, as I will do in the prayers.
We only do Communion when it can be celebrated in both communities, though, so it will be the week following. We will use the bannock mix. It is our last service before shifting to summer routine, and before I go away for three weeks, so that will be part of the package. Oh, and a baptism :)
Mendalla, what beautiful words . . . I have never heard this before. Thanks so much for this blessing.
Sorry, should have responded to this. Grandad self-published his poetry in a small book and distributed it to family and friends so that's why you wouldn't have heard it before. We sang it at his funeral and, I think, at my mother's funeral as well.
Yes, I noticed that the EUB part of our history was missing from Dare to Be. Curious, isn't it? I was also surprised that there was no mention of the Song of Faith in the video.
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paradox3
It was good, Beloved. I was
Posted on: 06/06/2010 14:45
It was good, Beloved. I was the lay leader (reader) this morning, and I enjoyed taking part. We scaled the order of service back a little, and viewed only one of the videos. It was still a long service, but very meaningful. I especially liked the children's participation with the evergreen branches and the sprinkles of water.
It was also interesting to have communion with the common loaf, after learning about it here on wondercafe.
Beloved
What was the video you veiwed
Posted on: 06/06/2010 14:48
What was the video you veiwed paradox3?
paradox3
Hi Beloved, It was called
Posted on: 06/06/2010 15:23
Hi Beloved,
It was called Dare to Be, and it was about the history of the United Church. There are two other videos - - one is a message from the Moderator. We used the order of service that was created for congregations to use this Sunday. It was written by two people in Saskatchewan, and the idea was for everyone to use it for today's worship. I think the order of service suggested viewing all three videos, but as I said, we scaled back a little on a few things.
redbaron338
We used bits and pieces of
Posted on: 06/06/2010 15:30
We used bits and pieces of the service that came, as well as parts 2 and 3 (the Dare to Be segments) of the DVD, plus communion with the Common Loaf being used. Seemed to work out fairly well.
Beloved
paradox3 wrote: Hi
Posted on: 06/06/2010 15:55
Hi Beloved,
It was called Dare to Be, and it was about the history of the United Church.
Yes, I watched the whole DVD, paradox3, I mentioned it in church (we did not watch it) and I encouraged everyone in our congregation to take it home, especially to watch the "Dare to Be" segment - I thougth it was great.
Pinga
Hi Beloved Today our church
Posted on: 06/06/2010 17:45
Hi Beloved
Today our church had planned to do the church picnic, and joined with another United Church to do so (we are learning about cooperating congregations). From when we had planned until now, lots of things had occurred, including finding out that it was the Anniversary Sunday, and that our minister would be off on medical leave.
I utilized the 85th service that was so well put together. I agree, the children loved doing the baptism...and so did the adults love getting baptised. In fact, we missed a bunch, and they said -- heh, you missed me...and the kids had to go back & get them.
In addition, though we didn't have communion, the children offered the bannock to the people in the congregation,..and it was well received.
People enjoyed the music, and seemed quite happy to be together and say "yes, we remember" They remembered as well the sense of welcome to this place.
We were disappointed in the weather. It was cold, wet & rainy, and we were to be outside for the service and the picnic that followed...but the group stuck it out and we met in the hall. Over 125 people came together -- not bad considering it was a joint service...(sometimes scares people away), it was a picnic service (often scares people away), it was rainy (scares even the picnic people away!), and I was co-leading the service (heh..it wasn't the minister..)..and a favourite minister who grew up at our church was having his retirement / last service today...(clearly another good reason to miss)
anyhow, although I am tired, I am glad it came together.
seeler
Hey, I didn't realize that
Posted on: 06/06/2010 18:31
Hey, I didn't realize that the early part of our service, with the remembering and the response of "Yes, we remember" was part of a national service. Great! Now I feel more involved. The very first remembrance for our congregation was rather special. The minister told us that he checked the records and found out that five babies had been baptized that summer. As he read the names, he asked that they please stand. First name, pause, look around, no one standing. Second name, the same. Third and Fourth. Then he read the fifth name and a ripple went through the congregation as the woman sitting directly in front of me stood up. She was invited to the front of the church to say a few words. She pointed to her sister still sitting in the pew. 'That's where we sat. My three sisters, my brother and me. We had to sit there so that our father, up in the choir loft (she pointed) could keep an eye on us.' 'We came to church in the morning. Sunday School in the afternoon. Evening service. Every week.'
I helped to serve communion, assisted by a girl from the middle school class. The Sunday School children had made the bannock during the early part of the service. It was very meaningful to know that it was being shared all across Canada.
I'm glad to hear that other congregations used it.
DKS
seeler wrote: Hey, I didn't
Posted on: 06/06/2010 19:08
Hey, I didn't realize that the early part of our service, with the remembering and the response of "Yes, we remember" was part of a national service. Great! Now I feel more involved. The very first remembrance for our congregation was rather special. The minister told us that he checked the records and found out that five babies had been baptized that summer. As he read the names, he asked that they please stand. First name, pause, look around, no one standing. Second name, the same. Third and Fourth. Then he read the fifth name and a ripple went through the congregation as the woman sitting directly in front of me stood up. She was invited to the front of the church to say a few words. She pointed to her sister still sitting in the pew. 'That's where we sat. My three sisters, my brother and me. We had to sit there so that our father, up in the choir loft (she pointed) could keep an eye on us.' 'We came to church in the morning. Sunday School in the afternoon. Evening service. Every week.'
I had a number of members speak to me after church, recalling their participation in the procession from one church to another on that first Sunday. A number of the churches still are active; some have closed.
I'm glad to hear that other congregations used it.
We never received the flour mix. None of other colleagues in this city mentioned it, either.
Tabitha
Bannock was made by the
Posted on: 06/06/2010 19:25
Bannock was made by the youth.
We used the 'I remember" part-at least we did an "I remember" part.
The letter received from our partner congreagation was read, we used the same scriptures that were read at the founding of the UCC.
No DVDs or videos. Lots of hymns
Lovely service.
MorningCalm
Is today your celebration
Posted on: 06/06/2010 19:26
Is today your celebration day? Again, congratulations UCC.
I shall have to take some time to reflect on my family's own involvement in your denomination. I have some fairly deep roots in the United Church of Canada. My grandparents on my mother's side were members, and a cousin and her daughter were United Church missionaries to South Korea. My mother is still an adherent of your denom, as is one sister and her family. My youngest sister flew up from Dallas just to get her baby baptized in the United Church we attended as children. It was in the United Church that my Dad first started performing magic, which later became his career.
I believe I shall commemorate the big anniversary by reading the History of the New Mills Pastoral Charge, written a number of years ago by one of my aunts.
Again, congratulations to all.
crazyheart
I know of at least one church
Posted on: 06/06/2010 19:26
I know of at least one church here used it for communion this morning and I am sure there were others.
Beloved
Greetings! Our church
Posted on: 06/06/2010 19:38
Greetings!
Our church service this morning was a celebration! We had lots of fun. Our sanctuary was decorated with helium balloons with "Happy Anniversary" on them as well as several banners throughout the sanctuary. The first part of our service was focused on worship and prayer, and the second part was focused on fun - as in a "How Well Do You Know The United Church of Canada?" game.
The parts of our service that were gleaned from the 85th Anniversary information were: a) used part of the prayer and incorporated some of my own b) Sharing The Loaf, although we couldn't have communion I had one of the ladies from our church bake the loaf from the packet we received and I talked about the loaf and the remembrance of the communion service - each person was encouraged if they so wished to take a piece of the bread and dip it in grape juice as they left the sanctuary and reflect on Jesus and their faith as they so chose to c) We used the bulletin cover and A New Creed bookmarks and recited it together d) we prayed the Unison Sunday Prayer together d) we used the Scripture reading that was used at the inaugural service of UCC e) the names of our connections in the Making Connections endeavour were shared and prayed for and I mentioned the contact we had with both churches, I also shared that a "Greetings" newsletter was sent from our church to theirs telling us a little bit about ourselves and how we were celebrating the 85th.
The sermon part of the service was a game entitled "How Well Do You Know The United Church of Canada?" with two teams and a variety of questions about The UCC and our own church. The score ended as 1500 to 1300 - but I gave the 1300 point team a handicap as the power point presentation was shown on a wall that the other side could see better - so the game ended in a draw. All participated in the prize which was a fellowship luncheon following the service. Little sandwiches, dainties, etc. as well as the remainder of the shared loaf for those that wanted to have some more.
One of the questions directed to both teams was whether there was anyone born on or before June 10, 1925 present - we had 4 people on one side stand and one person on the other. We had one person who was born on June 10th, but not in 1925.
I think everyone there had a good time in our celebration.
Hope, peace, joy, love . . .
Beloved
We did not do the "yes, we
Posted on: 06/06/2010 19:40
We did not do the "yes, we remember" as described by pinga above . . . it did sound like a meaningful part of worship time though. pinga, it sounds like the baptism part went over very well. Too bad the picnic part got rained out - but wow - 125 people - that's awesome.
Beloved
Thanks for sharing your
Posted on: 06/06/2010 19:42
Thanks for sharing your baptism story, seeler! I agree with you, I also think it was very meaningful that the bannock (Shared Loaf) was shared with and available for all congregations across Canada - it would be interesting to know how many used it or will use it at some celebratory service.
Beloved
Oh, DKS - I see you posted
Posted on: 06/06/2010 19:43
Oh, DKS - I see you posted that you, and other colleagues in your area, didn't receive the packet - that's sad.
Beloved
Tabitha, I think that's great
Posted on: 06/06/2010 19:45
Tabitha, I think that's great that the youth were involved in the bannock making/baking (also in seeler's church). That's a nice way to involve them. Unfortunately we had no children/youth at church. At our church they don't come after Sunday School wind-up, which was at the end of May . . . it's sad, but unfortunately that is the way it is.
Beloved
Thanks, jae, for sharing your
Posted on: 06/06/2010 19:47
Thanks, jae, for sharing your congratulations, as well as all your family ties to the UCC.
Beloved
Hey crazyheart - how was the
Posted on: 06/06/2010 19:48
Hey crazyheart - how was the rest of your service?
Tabitha
So Beloved why does Sunday
Posted on: 06/07/2010 00:42
So Beloved why does Sunday school finish in May? I know it can be a chicken and egg question. It finshes because the kids stop coming/ the kids stop coming because there is no Sunday school.
Our sunday school is still on and will stop for July/ Aug and probably first 2 weeks of Sept.
Beloved
At one time regular Sunday
Posted on: 06/06/2010 19:55
At one time regular Sunday School ended in May and we had summer Sunday School for the month of June - a little less structured and fewer teachers required. Because we are short of teachers (and students also - we are a "diminshing" congregation) their desire was to go only til the end of May - very few children came in June for a variety of reasons - sports scheduled in the community (ball and soccer - we have a very short season here), cottage season, etc.
Mendalla
Wasn't in church today and
Posted on: 06/06/2010 20:05
Wasn't in church today and probably would have gone to my UU if I had. To celebrate the occasion, I'll share a verse from a hymn written by my grandfather. (Tune: Aurelia).
O come ye to the Father
O come ye to the Son
O come ye to the Spirit
And with Him be one.
Then go ye forth to others
His love with them to share,
That we may be united
With His folk everywhere.
- from "Hymn" in Pastoral Poems & Parson's Lyric, by Rev. Dr. H. W. Vaughan
Congratulations, UCC. And I, for one, do hope you're still around in another 85 years.
Mendalla
Beloved
Mendalla, what beautiful
Posted on: 06/06/2010 20:12
Mendalla, what beautiful words . . . I have never heard this before. Thanks so much for this blessing.
seeler
DKS - I feel bad that your
Posted on: 06/06/2010 20:12
DKS - I feel bad that your congregation and others in your region did not receive the starter packets. I'm sure the intention was to send them to every pastoral charge in Canada. I'd ask Chris Levan about it, but he is gone, headed for his new congregation in TO.
amc_1980
We met with 5 neighbouring
Posted on: 06/06/2010 20:22
We met with 5 neighbouring congregations and shared in worship, fellowship, and lunch. We talked about the past, present, and hope for the future. It again became apparent we cannot be innocent bystanders and we journey into the future!
Beloved
That sounds like it would be
Posted on: 06/06/2010 20:30
That sounds like it would be quite a gathering, amc_1980. On this anniversary we must not only look back, but focus on the hope for the future and the journey into the future is so important.
crazyheart
Sorry to mislead you Beloved.
Posted on: 06/06/2010 20:37
Sorry to mislead you Beloved. I am still recovering so did not go to church today.
Hilary
our anniversary celebration
Posted on: 06/06/2010 20:57
our anniversary celebration will be next Sunday as we gather together with six (??) other United Churches from the area in our sancturay. I don't know how much of the national stuff we'll be doing because we have a special guest speaker (Rev. Lorne Calvert) and several musical guests.
Beloved
crazyheart . . . I sure hope
Posted on: 06/06/2010 21:03
crazyheart . . . I sure hope you are feeling better soon!
You will have to come back next week and update us on how your anniversary celebration goes, Hilary.
spiritbear
Our congregation received the
Posted on: 06/06/2010 21:12
Our congregation received the starter mix and used it in the bannock for communion. We also showed the "Dare to Be" video on our screen, despite the fact that a gaping big hole in the historical presentation was the failure to mention the joining of the EUB (evangelical united brethren) congregations in 1968. I mentioned this beforehand to our minister (who actually came from an EUB family, as did I), so she made a big point of it in her sermon!
paradox3
What a nice idea - - joining
Posted on: 06/06/2010 21:13
What a nice idea - - joining with other congregations for the celebration!
Beloved
spiritbear wrote: despite
Posted on: 06/06/2010 21:23
despite the fact that a gaping big hole in the historical presentation was the failure to mention the joining of the EUB (evangelical united brethren) congregations in 1968.
Thanks for sharing this spiritbear . . . I will have to go back in my research and reading and check this out too, as I did not mention it either.
DKS
Beloved wrote: Oh, DKS - I
Posted on: 06/06/2010 21:23
Oh, DKS - I see you posted that you, and other colleagues in your area, didn't receive the packet - that's sad.
Well, stuff happens. I didn't make much use of the anniversary resources, either. I'm finding more and more disconnect with the resources our national office produces. Way too Unitarian for my theological perspective. I found solid theology lacking in the Great Thanksgiving prayer. It could have been a lot better. I'm a generation removed in liturgical practice from what is currently being taught. I find much of what is being done today to be thin gruel.
On the positive side, we participated in Doors Open in our city yesterday and today, and had many visitors. It's the centennial of our building. All kinds of neat stories there.
Northwind
Northern Lights Presbytery
Posted on: 06/06/2010 22:04
Northern Lights Presbytery had a big celebration at the UCC in Grande Prairie (St Paul's?). Our presbytery is a large one, possibly the largest geographically, in Canada. It includes Yellowknife, Whitehorse, Alberta from about Valleyview north, and the Peace/Liard region in BC. Everyone was invited, but of course not all came. Five of us from our congregation attended. We decided to camp in GP last night and had a wonderful time there.
Now, you campers probably know that when camping we go into slow gear. As a result, we got to the church about five minutes late. I am not sure what happened during those first five or so minutes. We did not see any DVD's. There were several clergy in attendance, from GP, Yellowknife, Valleyview, Spirit River, Beaverlodge and one other who was from Alberta somewhere I believe. They all participated. There was a large choir which may have included people from the area.The music was wonderful and was a mixture of old and new. I loved the new hymns I learned from More Voices. The minister of the GP church did a reflection on the history of the UCC and the minister from Yellowknife who is also the chair of Alberta and Northwest conference, gave the main reflection. He spoke of how things have changed since 1925 and about "Singing our Future". The entire service took about two hours. It did include a communion and I believe the bread for the communion was the shared loaf.
I wasn't sure if I wanted to celebrate the anniversary of the UCC actually. I have been pondering how we seem to be more interested in celebrating an institution and worshipping a church rather than being followers of Christ. My "we" includes more than UCC people because it seems that all the churches seem to be this way. It is human nature. Anyway, I am glad I attended. It really reminded me why I attend the UCC and for me, highlighted the principles and values we share, or are supposed to share in the UCC.....social justice, inclusiveness, etc. It made me wonder what our ancestors would say about the state of the church they created.
Our congregation is having a retreat next Saturday to start to figure out where we want to head in the future. I feel like I have more to bring to that retreat, at least for myself anyway.
I do wonder at the same time about the future of our UCC. There was an awful lot of grey hair in the congregation today. I would imagine over half the congregation was over sixty. At least I was not one of the youngest people there at age 53.
Pinga
The minister did a short
Posted on: 06/06/2010 22:16
The minister did a short message after the word -- using a section from Rev. Moss's preaching at Hamilton Conference.....in reference to Moses, then Joshua....."that was then...this is now"..and reminded us as we celebrated the years..and we remembered...that was then...this is now.
Good to hear all the stories of the 85th from across our country. I hope they keep coming.
I had a hunt for our flour...it was a much smaller package than I expected, and had been through multiple hands..between committees and office...but, through a series of handoffs we got it to the bakers who made the bannock...it was great. ...I heard that our flour came from a local flour mill -- Dover Mills in Cambridge (Preston), so you who had bannock today, know that a grain may have been from there.
weeze
Well, I think it was pretty
Posted on: 06/06/2010 23:50
Well, I think it was pretty fine. I baked the bannock--could have asked a member of the UCW but wanted the privilege myself--it felt kind of special. I used some of the resources, massaged to fit our circumstances; people seemed to enjoy the 'we remember' part. I used one of our more old-fashioned communion inserts, we served in the pews and I mentioned the manner of partaking all at once as a further sign of unity. We used several of the older hymns and our organist "cranked it"--we have a good electronic organ that sounds fantastic when it's set as a big organ--and we loved that. The bannock was o.k. for communion; but after the service we had a BBQ for board members and their families and we served the remainder in chunks with a jar of apple jelly to add to it and THAT was GOOD. Will try having it for breakfast tomorrow too!
The church is so special to me, I couldn't help but enjoy the celebration. Our history is so big now we can't begin to know it all, but it's good to glance at it and remember who we are.
Kinst
I missed most of it (slept in
Posted on: 06/07/2010 01:20
I missed most of it (slept in due to my friend's saturday night birthday party). Only saw the last half hour of service. I made it in time for communion with the common loaf.
First time celebrating communion in a long time actually.
After church, however, we went to a very large fundraiser for homeless youth in Hamilton. It was a 4 km walk through a gorgeous park by the waterfront. Our church was a pacesetting group, and most of the United Churches, Presbyterian and some Anglican churches in the area walked too. At the end of the day everyone raised $100,000 for youth temporary housing, shelters, summer camp, teen drop in centres, etc. The walk was really nice.
Beloved
Northwind, you'll have to let
Posted on: 06/07/2010 01:55
Northwind, you'll have to let us know how your retreat goes. I wonder about the future of the United Church I am a part of - lots of grey hair in our congregation also, and unfortunately not very many under the age of 50. Thanks for sharing about your presbytery and your service.
Beloved
"that was then . . . this is
Posted on: 06/07/2010 01:58
"that was then . . . this is now . . ." I wonder if the church today is what those who gathered at the inaugural service would have envisioned it would become.
Beloved
Hey weeze I was wishing we
Posted on: 06/07/2010 02:01
Hey weeze I was wishing we would have had some jelly or jam for our loaf at the luncheon - apple jelly sounds good. You mentioned "organist" . . . I wonder how many churches still have organists that play the organ. We have an organ, but no one to play it - all our accompanists play the electric keyboard. Our young accompanist is taking organ lessons and has played one or two hymns on the organ which makes many in our congregation quite happy as it hasn't been played for years.
Beloved
Wow, that's an impressive
Posted on: 06/07/2010 02:03
Wow, that's an impressive amount to fundraise Kinst. A walk in a park by a waterfront sounds like a good way to celebrate, an anniversary, and life in general.
DKS
Beloved wrote: Hey weeze I
Posted on: 06/07/2010 07:03
Hey weeze I was wishing we would have had some jelly or jam for our loaf at the luncheon - apple jelly sounds good. You mentioned "organist" . . . I wonder how many churches still have organists that play the organ. We have an organ, but no one to play it - all our accompanists play the electric keyboard. Our young accompanist is taking organ lessons and has played one or two hymns on the organ which makes many in our congregation quite happy as it hasn't been played for years.
All of the United Churches (four) in our city have large pipe organs (two are Casevants and one is one of the first Casevants installed in Ontario) and many competent people to play them. So do the Anglicans, Lutherans and Roman Catholics.
Tabitha
We just purchased a new organ
Posted on: 06/07/2010 10:06
We just purchased a new organ when our old one died. Congregational survey first-was this what we wanted money wise?
The answer was yes and the money was raised. We also have a piano in the santuary. Both are used during most services.
Mendalla
Beloved wrote: We have an
Posted on: 06/07/2010 11:01
We have an organ, but no one to play it - all our accompanists play the electric keyboard. Our young accompanist is taking organ lessons and has played one or two hymns on the organ which makes many in our congregation quite happy as it hasn't been played for years.
First St. Andrews, the UCC I attend, has a beautiful 1960s era Casavant and an excellent organist to play it. Problem is, I seem to be losing my taste for organ music or something. I find it too loud (that may be his fault, of course) and a little bombastic at times. They also have a nice baby grand at the front and I wish they'd use it a bit more and ease off on the organ a bit.
My UU Fellowship has a nice little electric piano and two good pianists to play it (one a student at the local Faculty of Music, the other a grad of said faculty) and I quite like that approach. I don't miss the organ at all.
One of the reasons I keep doing both is it gives me a bit more variety musically.
Note to Tabitha: my Dad was part of the group who got a new organ for our family church in Kitchener (late eighties). I don't recall that there much fuss over the expenditure, but the choir did do a lot of extra fundraising to pay for adding a trumpet stop that wasn't covered in the original project budget. Funnily enough, Dad became Lutheran after he remarried in the late nineties and ended up on their organ committee. Deja vu all over again.
Mendalla
RussP
p3 Yes, Dare To Be was
Posted on: 06/07/2010 12:41
p3
Yes, Dare To Be was wonderful, but the thought that kept coming to me was "WAS". It just sounded so much like a how great we were story, rather than a how great we are, or will be, story. That and some articles in the latest Observer left me in not the the mood I would have expected for a BDay celebration.
RevMatt
We are celebrating this
Posted on: 06/07/2010 18:04
We are celebrating this Sunday coming, and the one following. It is anniversary Sunday for one of the points in the charge, and we have a fantastic guest preacher coming. She will be preaching about Ashton's anniversary, but I am told she intends to weave in threads about the denomination, as I will do in the prayers.
We only do Communion when it can be celebrated in both communities, though, so it will be the week following. We will use the bannock mix. It is our last service before shifting to summer routine, and before I go away for three weeks, so that will be part of the package. Oh, and a baptism :)
Mendalla
Beloved wrote: Mendalla, what
Posted on: 06/09/2010 13:22
Mendalla, what beautiful words . . . I have never heard this before. Thanks so much for this blessing.
Sorry, should have responded to this. Grandad self-published his poetry in a small book and distributed it to family and friends so that's why you wouldn't have heard it before. We sang it at his funeral and, I think, at my mother's funeral as well.
Mendalla
paradox3
Why did so many people make
Posted on: 06/10/2010 00:26
Why did so many people make bannock? We had bread baked with the flour we received.
paradox3
SpiritBear, Yes, I noticed
Posted on: 06/10/2010 00:31
SpiritBear,
Yes, I noticed that the EUB part of our history was missing from Dare to Be. Curious, isn't it? I was also surprised that there was no mention of the Song of Faith in the video.
RevMatt
The recipe that came with the
Posted on: 06/10/2010 06:40
The recipe that came with the flour was for bannock. We are planning to just follow it.
paradox3
Ahh . . . I see. Thanks,
Posted on: 06/10/2010 07:06
Ahh . . . I see. Thanks, RevMatt.