This is a strange question but I read this today "losing a vocation" and I was wondering, how often does this happen in the church. Sometimes or not at all.
Is it a struggle through ministry to feel the passion and the call that they started out with?
If this is too personal, please disregard.
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jensamember
I would imagine, there would
Posted on: 10/25/2009 19:26
I would imagine, there would definately be times of discouragement...I think I may even lean on the whole 'to everything there is a season'...when it comes to change sometimes I believe it's an individual's choice, however some change happens at the hand of another...
I hope I understood your question...
YouthWorker
I think this can definitely
Posted on: 10/25/2009 19:34
I think this can definitely happen. (That is, if I correctly understand what you mean by "losing a vocation.")
Just as anyone can lose a calling to their profession, or later feel a stronger calling to something else, I think that can happen to those in ministry. After all, a number of our ministers are "second career" ministers, who originally started out as something else. Who's to say their second career will be their last career?
ninjafaery
Hi CH. I lost my vocation
Posted on: 10/25/2009 19:51
Hi CH.
I lost my vocation before it even started. I went back to university to get an undergrad in Religious Studies with a view to going on to Huron College and getting my MDiv. I had the support of the congregation I belonged to and the promise of future support once at Huron. On the way, I found Feminist spirituality, wicca, buddhism and the arse just fell out of the whole thing!
Had things gone differently, I would have sought ordination to the Anglican priesthood.
(awful glad I didn't).
I still don't think I lost my "call". I just realized it doesn't always mean an actual job.
(My marks were kind of lacklustre too)
spiritbear
CH asked "Is it a struggle
Posted on: 10/25/2009 21:39
CH asked "Is it a struggle through ministry to feel the passion and the call that they started out with?"
I think it is a struggle to maintain the passion in any profession. My calling is teaching, and I have experienced many different takes on that profession - as a supply teacher, as a secondary science teacher and as a university instructor. It's very easy to get burned out. The stress is enormous, especially at the secondary level, if one is assigned different courses every year. So much time gets sucked into preparation that less time and energy is available to concentrate on the students. I'm sure that those in spiritual ministry can find the parallels.... As much maligned as they are, professional development days can be a life saver, by helping you understand your profession and get you excited about the possibilities that are underway elsewhere.
It's the same in my church "calling". I'm the tech and instrumental point person (and amateur), and if anything "cutting edge" is happening in my church, it's often connected with what I do. That needs vision, which is difficult to keep up when there are simple mechanics to take care of every week - what music to choose, figuring what's going wrong with the hardware, keeping the web page updated, putting the slides together for the next service, convincing staff that perhaps the church might be less conservative in its approach to music, listening to complaints from my wife that I'm putting too much time into church. Once again, it really helps to be able to get together with others who are also on the cutting edge - such as conferences such as the "More Franchises" one last year, and coming up again next year. Keeping one candle lit in the dark somehow seems so much more daunting than when there are other candles to help light your way.
Meredith
Maybe we shouldn't imagine
Posted on: 10/25/2009 21:46
Maybe we shouldn't imagine that any vocation must be a lifetime committment and if you choose to leave you have failed somehow (particularly a vocation like ministry). If you serve x number of years and then feel you need to do something else with your life that's fine. It was a journey and it was what it was for that period of time. Reality is that we change, life changes and that can impact our vocation, our sense of call etc.
seeler
In this city we have a UCC
Posted on: 10/26/2009 07:39
In this city we have a UCC minister who asks each year to be maintained on the roles who is a full time artist/crafts person; another who is a counsellor; a few who teach at the university; and perhaps a few others. Some do supply work occasionally, or part time ministry. Some are not on the availibility list. Lost their call? or been called to something different?
Or is it possible that they mistook the call in the fist place? Perhaps they felt that they should become a minister - their youth leader, their family, their minister, told them that they should. So they went though the steps, got the education, were ordained, settled, began their ministry - and then at some point realized that this wasn't for them. It's hard to say.
Myself, over my lifetime I sometimes felt called but something (usually finances and then poor health and family commitments) got in the way. Even today people tell me, 'you should have been a minister', but I don't know if I really had the call, or if I was called to lay ministry. I know that there are aspects of the job that I wouldn't be good at - like handling disagreements at board meetings and being diplimatic with the wealthy person who thinks they should run things.
Birthstone
**reading with great
Posted on: 10/26/2009 08:13
**reading with great interest...
when a 'call' or 'vocation' is labelled by outsiders, it becomes less of a personal feeling and more of a 'job' - not a bad thing, because we must follow those vocations in ways that actually serve people or it isn't viable, but also disillusioning, energy-sapping and destabilizing in the short term, and transforming in the long term. At worst, it is destructive when someone has been misled, because vocations are heart-felt, so heart-break is a risk.
I absolutely feel though, that we can follow a path and discover amazing things about ourselves and others that weren't even on the radar when we started. That can be life-giving and uplifting, something missed out on if we had been timid.
Oh where is the mighty flashing finger of God pointing at the right path????
spiritbear
God is not always what we
Posted on: 10/26/2009 12:13
God is not always what we want God to be. We are not always what God wants us to be.
I don't think there is any single "right" call that God has ordained for any one of us. God only wants us to use what we have to serve others. Of course, there are "wrong" calls, where we neither use what we have wisely nor are of service to others. I agree with Meredith that a "call" shouldn't be thought of as fixed in time and place. Indeed, if you have been serving a charge for a long time, your call is probably to move, so that your old charge can be rejuvenated and your new charge may share the benefit of your experience.
retiredrev
I've seen former colleagues
Posted on: 10/28/2009 23:10
I've seen former colleagues who lost their vocation not through personal choice but by the actions of the church hierarchy (a problem across the denominational spectrum). A minister I knew years ago went through the trauma of being wrongfully accused, charged, and arrested; losing his church but finally acquitted by the court. It was a trumped up charge brought on by someone who had a personal vendetta against that minister. Another minister's son was considering the ministry until he witnessed the verbal abuse and defamation doled out by his father's congregation. His father sought employment in sales and the son doesn't even go to church today! A woman minister in the church I grew up in had people calling her obscene names to her face. She left the ministry and returned to teaching. Call or not, no one needs that hassle or abuse.