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From flabby to half marathon in a year?

I have been inspired.....for what it is worth. I was visiting Tumbler Ridge, BC this weekend and was reminded of The Emperor's Challenge, (http://www.emperorschallenge.com/) a half marathon up a mountain, that happens each year. I learned not long ago that you can walk the route. It is not just for runners and super-athletes. I had considered trying it this year, but was not sure where my foot would be at this point. As you may know, I had foot surgery in October to fuse the first MTP joint (the one that has the bunion). Well, my foot would be ready now......the rest of me would not be ready.

 

So, now I am thinking of aiming to participate next year. The plan would be to walk it. I highly doubt that I would run any of it, but then who knows. At this point, I am in lousy shape. I can walk a mile or two easily. I can ride my bike a fair distance on flat surfaces. This would be a huge goal. But what a goal it would be!! I mean, consider the scenery:

 

 

Also, consider the achievement! Wow.

 

Does anyone have any great tips? Would anyone care to join me? Motivate me?

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Congratulations on setting

Congratulations on setting you goal.  I believe that, failing ill health or injury, you should be able to make it.  My advice, start slow and build up your endurance, adding a bit to your distance each day.  And remember to do some of your training on the up-hill type of trail you will be following. 

 

When our son was home he started out walking a few blocks from home the first day, then adding a block or two each successive day.  Surprisingly before the month was out he was walking five or six klm in every day and that was his furthest because the route he mapped out for himself (he has OCD) lead him on a large loop around the neighbouring subdivision, and by the end of the month he had actually passed the midpoint and each successive block brought him closer to home.  The route was rather hilly, which I found out when I tried to walk part of it with him. 

 

Also remember the altitude of those hills in BC.  When I was out there, and away from the coast, I found myself gasping for breath at the slightest exertion.

 

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Gradually build up to it. Pay

Gradually build up to it. Pay close attention to your health on all fronts. Keep a well charged cell phone with you in case of trouble. STAY HYDRATED! Good luck.

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Northwind,I have checked out

Northwind,I have checked out the website. I see that the Mountain Run is scheduled for this Saturday. I am wondering why you are planning to wait until next year...... Oh I just reread your post and see that you are waiting until your foot is more recovered.

 

Please allow me to encourage you as you work towards your goal for next year. For us Saskatchewan farmers it is already next year country as this year's crop does not look very promising. 

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Northwind.   That is

Northwind.

 

That is great!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  A year ago I signed up for the "Learn to Run" course at our local running room after a prolonged running hiatus.  I will be celebrating the one year anniversary of that learn to run experience by running (and walking for some of it...we do 10 min run, 1 min walk) my first half marathon.  Last year I was an out of shape stay-at-home mom.  While I am by no means a lean mean marathon running machine, I am in much better shape.  I have also made some great running friends, participated in some super fun races (including a trail run which included running trhough two streams and one knee deep mup pit!) and find I feel better generally.  Running really helps me clear my head and manage my stress.   I would totally encourage you to pursue this goal and I think it is fantastic you are considering it.

 

I found that joining a group really helped me stay motivated.  If you are near a Running Room location I would encourage you to look at their clinics.  They have power walking, half marathon training (walking) and an assortment of running clinics.  All running rooms have free group sessions on Wed and Sunday morning in addition to the formal clinics.  The formal clinics do have a cost but they are worth considering.  They all start with a 30 minute talk on injury prevention, stretching, choosing the right shoe etc which I found helpful. 

 

However the real plus, for me, was the group.  I have made some good friends.  A group of three of us meet every Sat. for our long run and are running the half marathon together.  We encourage each other and keep each other "honest", acccountable and motivated. It's really hard to skip that long run when you know two people are waiting for you.  The social aspect to the group is also really nice.  For a stay-at-home mom like me the adult conversation is nice. I know the running room in our area has organized walking groups in addition to running groups so perhaps explore that!

 

There are also some really good training books that have training programs laid out for you.  This makes sure you gradually increase your distance which goes a long way in preventing injuries.  Most running stores have a collection of books, some geared for runners, some for walkers.  I would imagine your library would also have a collection.  There are also training programs and decent resources on-line for free.  Just make sure it is from a reputable site.

 

Good luck and keep us posted on your progress!  Once you master the half there are all sorts of fun half marathons that you can walk.  Just this past weekend we were talking about perhaps have the Great Wall of China marathon as our dream marathon!!!  Disney has one that looks fun as well...all through the park!

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Thanks for the information

Thanks for the information folks. naman, I had considered trying the challenge this year and never really got around to it......all of a sudden it is here. My foot would be ready for it as it turns out.....and next year, the rest of me will be ready!

 

Daisy Jane, there is no running room here, but there are runners and someone does do a learn to run course here. We also have a bike store that has a lot of cycling events, including people who get involved in triathalons of varying difficulty. I do have the ability to find some hills near here to walk. Thanks for the information about books. I will see what there is out there.

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I think this is awesome,

I think this is awesome, Northwind.  I recently became a runner when I took a learn to run program in the spring (not through Running Room).

 

A half marathon is also my goal - though I haven't really been looking for one to strive for yet.  My advice would be to sign up for 2K, 5K, 10K races as you work up to your goal speed and distance.  I have had so much fun at these smaller events this summer and it's a great way to get a feel for what the atmosphere will be like and how your emotions/adrenaline will influence your performance.

 

Good luck and have fun!

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 A goal is good and that

 A goal is good and that seems like an attainable goal.

 

I agree that finding a group to train with helps alot.   Both in knowledge, support and obligation.  When it is just you it is too easy to not do it today for the myriad of reasons we all have.

 

train to run marathon books are good.  Generally I find they start out very slow and it is tempting to just skip that part , but the idea of walk one minute, run one minute and build up is an important step.

 

I would urge you to find a running shoe store , a good one, not the local shoe store and really get fitted properly.  Also ask for the mileage on the shoes, so that you get new ones early enough.  I know people who have two pairs so that they completely dry out between use.

 

Good supportive shoes for running or walking are so important.

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Hilary, you are not that far

Hilary, you are not that far from here, come on up next summer........oh yeah, you are moving back to Ontario, right?

 

lastpointe, I am truly a fan of comfortable and proper footwear......my feet tolerate nothing else. I know that Asics running shoes are excellent and that my feet like them. I also have Keen hikers and some Merrells. I may go back to the podiatrist to get orthotics. The ones I got in the spring really do not cut it, and the insoles of my shoes are better. In fact, I can walk with no problem in the Asics or Keens because they have good arch support and do not let me pronate so much. If I feel the urge to run, that will be the time to get orthotics I think.

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I am moving east.  A shame,

I am moving east.  A shame, too, because that looks like a fun race.

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Well, the planes do fly to

Well, the planes do fly to towns nearby..........  

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Hey Northwind-you've met

Hey Northwind-you've met me-and I've successfully completed a full marathon.

Do you walk/runs, speedwork, hills and long slow days and you will be fine.

Print out a training schedule-on line or from one of the many books available and follow it!

You can do it!

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P.S. I've also done 2 1/2

P.S.

I've also done 2 1/2 marathons.

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Thanks Tabitha. I walked with

Thanks Tabitha. I walked with my friend tonight and we hoofed it for about 3.5 miles. That would have killed me a few months ago! It was mostly flat, though there was a grade near the last bit. We also have a community forest here that is hilly, in a coolie. A friend said it is about a 4-6 km loop. He said that when he could do the loop about four times he was ready. I will do that at some point. In fact, I might take a leisurely stroll around it this weekend. DH might be interested in joining me.

Where do you get the training schedules?

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You can google something like

You can google something like "half marathon training schedules" (running or walking) and there should be a program.  It will provide gradual increases. 

 

I am in the midst of a half marathon (running) training program right now with a goal of being half marathon ready by Oct.  We are presently increasing from 12-14 km for our long runs on the weekend.  We do shorter runs during the week...usually between 4-7 km.

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I have seen a man prepare for

I have seen a man prepare for running the Emperors Challenge. He has "short" of half an hour or so, up to an hour and a half. He has a long run of two hours and forty five minutes. It is quite the structured schedule.

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 Hmmm this Triathlon thing

 Hmmm this Triathlon thing must be 'going around'.  My husband recently announced that he and his brother are going to train for the Hawaii half tri next year.   Which is fine but for the financial aspect.  His brother is a pilot for a commercial airline.   He makes plenty of money and can fly anywhere his airline goes for next to nothing. SO unless  little brother is going to help pay for this venture in a big way, I don't see how it's going to happen. OH and not to mention shoes, bike, wetsuit, mega calories needed, and so on.

 

Having said that, I think it is a great goal to have.  I am doing my husband's research for him re: equipment and stuff and finding it fascinating.   It can benefit a person on so many levels.   I wish you all the best in a very worthy venture.  

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perhaps they could start with

perhaps they could start with training for a local race.  Running clubs have races all over the place.

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 my thoughts exactly. However

 my thoughts exactly. However Brother in Law lives in Calgary and we are in the Southern Interior of BC. Hubby needs to find a local mentor.  There are running and Tri Clubs around. Great information and support to be had there. Of course here is also the added membership fees and workshop fees....:P

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We have a running club here

We have a running club here and they have some races and events.I am going to find out if there is an arthritis run/walk this year. There was one last year, just after I'd had my foot surgery. It would be a great anniversary marker to commemorate my new foot and the healing. I am also going to check out the learn to run clinics in the spring. I am not sure if my feet and ankles are up to it, but I will never know if I don't try.

 

I walked with the dog last night. I went out for an hour and a half and covered about 4.5 miles. I walked 10,000 steps. Having the Emperor's CHallenge as a goal is a good motivator.

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Hiliary.  Did I hear you were

Hiliary.  Did I hear you were moving back to Ont?  Perhaps we will meet at a race!

 

Tabitha.  I run my first half in Oct (Niagara Int....apparently flat to slightly downhill...good for a virgin halfer!).  Any words of wisdom????

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Northwind.   Thanks for

Northwind.

 

Thanks for keeping us up to date on your progress.  I was thinking it might be fun to have a thread where those of us who run/walk/hike/tri can share our progress.  It might help us all stay motivated and accountable...sort of a virtual running/walking support group.

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DaisyJane - it's true!  I

DaisyJane - it's true!  I sent you a wondermail.

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Daisy Jane that is a great

Daisy Jane that is a great idea. I participate in a thread like that on the South Beach Diet boards and it is a huge help. Right now it is easy for me to add outside walking in my life. Snow and harsh cold will be here all too soon. It might be different then....though I do like walking outside in the snow when I am properly dressed for it.

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Words of wisdom for Daisy

Words of wisdom for Daisy Jane-HAve fun! Really ! having fun is more important to me than finshing in a certain time!

Don't try anything new race day-no new shoes-no new drinks or supplements

I drink 1/2 gatorade 1/2 water at waterstations and carry sports beans or a vanilla gel if needed.

The hardest part is starting!

Walking steps as needed are allowed!

Talk to fellow runners and enjoy yourself!

and put a special person or 2 at the finish line to spur you that extra bit!

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Great tips Tabitha!

Great tips Tabitha!

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Northwind ... you have come

Northwind ... you have come so far and I admire your goal, that is awesome!

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Thanks pommum. I just met

Thanks pommum. I just met some people who hiked the Chiloot trail in the Yukon. That is something I'd like to do. They said it was awesome.

 

How are you doing these days? Is your body healing well?

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Hi Northwind - thought I was

Hi Northwind - thought I was doing OK this summer til I slipped on a wet floor and tore some muscles in my thigh! They are healing, but slowly .... but as they say, better days ahead!

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Ouch pommum. Didn't you have

Ouch pommum. Didn't you have enough healing to do already? I hope you are up and about soon.

 

I am happy to report I went for a six mile walk on Saturday. I did it in two hours. It felt so good to be able to do that. It was also very good to see my house again at the end of the loop. I took a route that I had estimated would be about five miles. I was no more than about two miles from home at any given time, so could have cut it short along the route.......or could have called a cab for rescue if need be. It was so nice to do that and not pay for it with a sore foot afterwards!

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sounds excellent,

sounds excellent, Northwind!

 

 

sounds un-excellent, pommum!

 

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Good for you, I'm glad

Good for you, I'm glad everything is coming along so well.

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I took up running after I

I took up running after I sobered up 28 years ago. I also took up weight training. I ran several 10K races and vasaloppets (x/c skiing).

I now have prosthetic knees.

As my knees started crunching (especially on stairs) I took it to my doctor. He said it  was "Jogger's Knee" (chrondomalaccia patella). He told me to do exercises to build up my quadraceps. No amount of persuasion would convince him to explore further. Every other medical person said the same thing. After a half marathon in Stratford where I finished last, my left knee was never the same. They deteriorated rapidly and I could no longer exercise. Soon I couldn't walk either.

The real problem was the breaking down and wearing out of the cartilage that cushioned and lubricated the joint. high fevers in my youth probably contributed to this. The exercise made it worse.

If you hear crunching or crackling of any joint, or pain in the joint, don't be put off or pooh-poohed. Get them X-rayed.

Now I'm back to flabby.

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Oh, I know about crunchy

Oh, I know about crunchy joints, and even know the name.....crepitus. I agree with you. I had OA in my big toe joint. I have done a lot of information gathering on OA and they are starting to acknowledge that it is not wear and tear. If it were, my 56 year old, marathon-running friend would have no knees, hips, ankles, feet etc. If I am blessed with another crunchy joint, you can bet I will do something about it.

 

I am sticking to walking right now. I doubt that my feet ankles could take the running. My left ankle is a little grumbly, and I`d like it to stay at "little grumbly". I know what a joint that is hollering feels like, and it is not fun.

 

Have you been able to do something about your knees? Sounds like you need another opinion if your doctor is singing the same song.

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My running group is starting

My running group is starting to focus on increasing our long runs on the weekend in anticipation of our half marathon run at the end of Oct.  Our goal is to be running about 18 km (for a long run) at the end of Sept. 

 

So far.  So good.

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Good luck with that DJ!   I

Good luck with that DJ!

 

I am finding that having a goal for next year is really motivating me. I am going to plan to have at least one long walk per weekend. I walked 7 miles with Helios today. I think he has crawled off to bed.

 

When I first thought of doing this challenge, it seemed like a big goal. Today it is feeling very do-able. My legs are stronger and I am noticing the increased fitness level. Heck, maybe I will even run it next year.....or some of it. (not likely)

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When a half was first

When a half was first suggested to me I was only comfortably running about 5km.  21km seemed like an insurmountable goal.  But I am finding if you stick to the method of gradual increase it starts becoming quite realistic.  10 km now seems like a comfortable saturday morning run and 21 km, while not a peice of cake, seems quite do-able.

 

I have no doubt you can do it NW.

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I mentioned my 7 mile walk to

I mentioned my 7 mile walk to a friend at church this morning, He shook his head and said he didn't think he'd ever walked 7 miles at once in his whole life. That made me think of how we limit ourselves. We say certain distances are too far to walk, run or cycle, etc and don;t even try. That is quite sad when you think of it.

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Glad to hear you

Glad to hear you runners/walkers are keeping at it.

The secret to a godd 1/2 Daisy jane is to be consistent with your training and get it in!

Northwind-sounds like flabby is being replaced with fit!

I'm not running regularly at the moment but did a 25k bike on Sunday and have started a yoga class 1x week. Need to get on track with all the fall busyness!

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Good job Tabitha.   I went to

Good job Tabitha.

 

I went to a yoga class with a new instructor last night. It was excellent. I feel great today. I also went to a spin class this morning at 0600 hours. All my walking has paid off, because I could finish the class after keeping up most of the time. I plan to return to it. I do need to work on my non-existant triceps though. Holy cow.

 

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