My daughter turned 3 less than a month ago and for the past few months has started trying to read. She knows the sounds to most of the letters and is trying to sound out the words in her books. (She has trouble running the sounds together to form the words still though.) I was quite surprised when she started to do this, so I asked her preschool teacher about it. The advice she gave me was to not focus on that aspect of learning and to start doing lots of arts related activities with her. It is her opinion that if she learns to read this early, she will be bored when she gets into school. It's not that I was pushing her before, but I was encouraging her to read words and helping her with the sounds. My fear is that I will not teach her properly because I am not an educator. At the same time, I'm not sure if it is wise to suppress her natural curiosity towards reading. I don't want to talk with other parents in my social group about this because I don't want them to think I'm bragging. I would love to hear what others would do.
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RevMatt
I can tell you what we did.
Posted on: 05/29/2009 08:23
I can tell you what we did. We simply let our daughter lead. So we didn't push her at all. But she wanted to know, so she learned. By the time she started Senior Kindergarden this year, she could read and write in two languages and two alphabets.
I won't lie. She is bored in school. But I would still do the same thing again. The curiosity for learning is more important to nurture in the long run, and school can be just about making friends for now. It's frustrating, but I still think it's the best idea.
If she wants to learn, let her.
RevMatt
Oh, and anyone can teach a
Posted on: 05/29/2009 08:24
Oh, and anyone can teach a child to read. Don't worry about it. No training necessary.
kenziedark
I'm with RevMatt. If she's
Posted on: 05/29/2009 08:44
I'm with RevMatt. If she's interested, go for it. If she's trying to read now, she'll likely be bored at school regardless. You can always supplement her learning in school with reading together at night. A nice special time together.
cate
Wow, I'm shocked by the
Posted on: 05/29/2009 09:47
Wow, I'm shocked by the advice you received from the preschool teacher. What are the teacher's qualifications? Is she an actual teacher (has her education degree) or is she trained in childcare (daycare)?
Either way, I would be completely opposed to intentionally holding a child back from their natural abilities. My son did not start to read until this year (5 years old) but was extremely verbal (first word at 6 months old - I kid you not) with an absolutely ridiculous vocabulary at the age of 3 (for example, one day I was struggling with opening the door and holding groceries and I said "this is hard" and he said "you mean cumbersome mommy"). His preschool teachers (Montessori) strongly encouraged his love of words and language and yes, as RevMatt's experience mimics, he is now quite bored in kindergarten.
But in my opinion that is absolutely NOT a reason to avoid early language skills. They are the single biggest predictor of academic success for students in the long run. If she is ready to start the early stages of learning to read, then by all means follow her lead and help her achieve what she is ready for.
SLJudds
I started reading at 3. By
Posted on: 05/29/2009 10:05
I started reading at 3. By age 8, I was going to the library on my own, reading adult books, and could do research.
I also had ADD in the days before it was a recognized learning disorder. I was easily the most frustrating student in school. IQ's were the fad then, and I had the highest they had encountered.
School was a bad time for me. You can't slow down the kid to suit the school. I suggest you home school to supplant the real school. There are many subjects public schools don't touch. Find out what your child wants to study and load up on info.
Intelligent kids are more work and often more grief as they will explore the dark places. Better to be there holding the light.
ninjafaery
From what I know of gifted
Posted on: 05/29/2009 10:13
From what I know of gifted kids, what you can provide are the resources and opportunities to take themselves where they want to go. They do the rest. And while I certainly think it would be wrong to stem any interest a kid has, balance is important since developmentally, there are several areas in which stimulus is needed.
Kappa
Yeah, go for it! Bring on the
Posted on: 05/29/2009 10:43
Yeah, go for it! Bring on the books! Many bright kids are bored in school at the beginning, but there are probably lots of things you can do at home. Also, school is kind of like your "job" as a little kid: you may not like it, but you have to go and learn the drill, how to get along with people, how to be in a classroom etc. I think most kids don't start reading before they go to school, but a fair-sized sample do, and there is nothing like encouraging literacy in the early years. If she IS bored in school, her reading skills could allow her to explore more topics on her own when she is done the boring work, if the teachers allow that (some teachers have funny ideas).
lastpointe
Both my kids could read by
Posted on: 05/29/2009 11:03
Both my kids could read by kindergarten age ( 4ish0. I don't think it that unusual. some kids are just more visual that way, some more tactile.......
I would ensure that she has lots of books, not necessarily picture books though. Those are written for adults to read and so are not great beginning reader books. She will probably be able to read them, mine could , but that is mainly because they know the story and can fit the words to the story as they know it.
With picture books, when my kids were interested in reading i would still read them but run my finger under the words so they could match them up.
There are lots of great series that are beginning reading books and she will love the fun of learning. But I would n't ask her to read aloud, just let her read them herself and ask questions if she doesn't know the word.
Kids all learn at different rates. In grade 1, my son read small novels while his friends struggled with the beginner reading books but by around grade 3 all had evened out. It doesn't mean your child is a prodigy of any kind, just an early reader.
It helps alot with school though if you are a good reader and if you love to read. That , in my mind is the most important thing, that she continue to love to read.
I did have a talk with the grade 1 teacher though, to explain what books my son read and once she had him for a few weeks she was quite fine with him reading "harder" books as part of his class work.
Tyson
Encourage your daughter to
Posted on: 05/29/2009 12:05
Encourage your daughter to read. Encourage her to do art and music. Encourage her in math and science. But most of all......encourage her to read and write. Good literacy skills are very important.....even more important than math.
Tyson
cate wrote: But in my
Posted on: 05/29/2009 12:05
But in my opinion that is absolutely NOT a reason to avoid early language skills. They are the single biggest predictor of academic success for students in the long run. If she is ready to start the early stages of learning to read, then by all means follow her lead and help her achieve what she is ready for.
AMEN!!!!!
somegirl
The response of the preschool
Posted on: 05/29/2009 15:56
The response of the preschool teacher baffles me. I would think that if a child wants to learn about things then it should be encouraged.
jesouhaite777
The earlier she starts the
Posted on: 05/29/2009 16:26
The earlier she starts the better ...
By the time kids start school they are already wayyyyyyy behind ,and then have to rely on overworked teachers and Orweillian school system to take it from there .
At least she might be able to skip a few useless grades in between.
You have every right to brag its what separates your kid from the other droolsters
Diana
If you're reading to your
Posted on: 05/29/2009 19:19
If you're reading to your daughter, you're probably already teaching her to read without knowing it. If you've shown her that words have meanings, that stories have beginnings, middles and ends, if you've stopped in a story to talk about how she feels, or what she thinks is going to happen next, or what the story reminds her of in her own life, or if you've ever asked her to "pretend" read the story to you in her own words, or encouraged her to ask questions about the story, you are teaching some of the most important reading skills she'll ever learn or need. Decoding words is just one part of reading; don't be fearful of working with her if that's what she wants to do. Chances are she may lose interest at some point, and that's ok, too. Research in reading shows that, barring extremely high verbal ability or learning disabilities, reading tends to level out at about grade 4, whether the children started reading when they were 3 or 6. Just enjoy it as one more fun thing you can do together!
Diana
RevMatt wrote: Oh, and anyone
Posted on: 05/29/2009 19:24
Oh, and anyone can teach a child to read. Don't worry about it. No training necessary.
Talk to any parent of a child who struggles with reading and you'll see how wrong this statement is. This sort of thinking can make both parents and children feel like failures. Glad your daughter has strong verbal abilities, RevMat, but it's not the same for everyone.
gomom
cate wrote: Wow, I'm shocked
Posted on: 05/29/2009 22:44
Wow, I'm shocked by the advice you received from the preschool teacher. What are the teacher's qualifications? Is she an actual teacher (has her education degree) or is she trained in childcare (daycare)?
To tell you the truth, I don't know what qualifications she has. I do know that her school has a very loose structure and focuses more on learning through singing, dancing, and play. I had no choice but to use this preschool because the other school will not take kids under the age of three. I will probably be using a different preschool next year which is geared towards getting kids ready for kindergarten. The current preschool teacher is fabulous with younger children and learning disabled kids (I think she has education in that area) and my daughter really likes going to her school...I'm just not sure it is what I hoped it would be.
gomom
SLJudds wrote: I started
Posted on: 05/29/2009 22:57
I started reading at 3. By age 8, I was going to the library on my own, reading adult books, and could do research.
I also had ADD in the days before it was a recognized learning disorder. I was easily the most frustrating student in school. IQ's were the fad then, and I had the highest they had encountered.
School was a bad time for me. You can't slow down the kid to suit the school. I suggest you home school to supplant the real school. There are many subjects public schools don't touch. Find out what your child wants to study and load up on info.
Intelligent kids are more work and often more grief as they will explore the dark places. Better to be there holding the light.
Its stories like yours that scare me a little. She is very "energetic". I don't think that she is ADD because she can focus on one task for quite a long time. Hyperactive is a fitting description, she does most things with a "high intensity". I'm not sure that home schooling is the answer, but I certainly think that supplementing at home might be a necessity if school is not engaging her enough.
gomom
Kappa wrote: Yeah, go for it!
Posted on: 05/29/2009 22:59
Yeah, go for it! Bring on the books! Many bright kids are bored in school at the beginning, but there are probably lots of things you can do at home. Also, school is kind of like your "job" as a little kid: you may not like it, but you have to go and learn the drill, how to get along with people, how to be in a classroom etc.
Exactly my thoughts!
gomom
Many of the posts I've read
Posted on: 05/29/2009 23:22
Many of the posts I've read here refer to giftedness in some way. I'm not sure what the definition of a "gifted" child is, but I don't think my daughter falls into this category. I think is still too early to judge, but if I had to label her I would call her "advanced". She performs higher than her peers in most aspects, but in a range that is still normal. I hope this means, that she will have it easy in school, but not be so super smart that she is considered odd (does that make sense?).
Anyways, we read a beginner book tonight. She could read "if" and "can" by herself, but "jump" was too hard. She brought this book to me (without prompting) knowing that it is one she gets to try to read herself....I'm not going to refuse! I'll just let her interests lead me in what we do together.
jesouhaite777
I'll never understand why ADD
Posted on: 05/31/2009 13:40
I'll never understand why ADD is totally a bad thing some things are not worth focusing on for long peroids of time anyways look around you do you notice how much slower people have become , they take longer to make simple decisions they talk slower walk slower its like some kind of weird atmospheric effect maybe it's just me but man do i hate standing in line waiting for someone to figure out whether they want decaf or regular
Also homeschooling to me in general is scary because I don't think anyone who does not have the necessary qualifications should teach children at home I do believe in having the degrees required for this sort of thing also it gives a child a limited somewhat controlling view of the world .... ie knowledge only comes from one's parents and not the world around them also not expose them to the diversity that the world provides good and bad, besides home schooled kids at least the ones I've encountered have a pollyanna view of the world which just makes it easier for the world to eat them alive
seeler
The year my son turned three
Posted on: 05/31/2009 19:52
The year my son turned three was a particularly bad time for us financially. I bought him a winter jacket for his birthday. I also found some old index cards in a drawer. I printed his name on one, his sister's on another, Mommy and Daddy. Within days he had me printing more words - then short sentences. Within a few months he was reading - probably at about a Grade 1 level. He loved it. He read everything - library books, signs (stop, toysrus, for rent), cereal boxes, labels on cans. By the time he started school he was reading about Grade 3 or 4 level - tested in Grade 5 he read at a university level.
With most teachers he wasn't bored - they let him read and do research at his level. And he enjoyed working with the other kids on projects - they did the art work - he did the research.
Twice we ran into problems with teachers. At age 6 (he has a December birthday) he was put in a split Grade 2 - 3 class and the teacher reported to us that he wasn't as mature as the others in the class. I didn't expect him to be. Intelligence and reading ability doesn't have much to do with maturity. In grade six the teacher told us that he couldn't do a book report on the book that he choose because 'it is a university level book'. It was Lord of the Rings.
Help your child to read whenever she shows interest in it. You probably can't stop her unless you take her books away. And that would be about the worst thing you could do. Keep reading to her, and with her. Let her learn.
Punkins
I have no children and
Posted on: 05/31/2009 20:42
I have no children and absolutely no experience with this, but I can tell you my own story.
My mom used to read to me, and I started recognizing letters and words at a young age. When I was in kindergarten I was already considerably ahead of a lot of the other kids in things like verbal skills and counting. I was in a split class for Grades 1 and 2, both times the lower grade of the two. I would finish my work quickly and then usually listen to the lessons for the higher grade. At that age I didn't understand that most of the other kids didn't finish their work as fast as me, so I also used to get in trouble for talking and stuff. The teachers did not recongize at that time that I was so chatty and such because I was done so much faster than everyone else, and they thought that I was unable to keep my attention on my work. I had a good teacher in Grade 3 though, who realized this and brought it to my parents' attention that my attention span was just fine, and I was simply finishing my work much faster than most of the other kids. When I was in grade 2, my teacher didn't believe me when I brought my list of books I had read because there were so many, and I was just devastated that she thought I was lying. My mom had to go talk to my teacher and set her straight before she would accept my list. By the time I was 12, I was reading at a university level and had a significantly advanced vocabulary for my age group.
I was not what I would consider a "gifted" kid in school. Yes, I was "smart", got high grades and had a relatively easy time of it, but I don't think I was exceptional. I do firmly believe however that a significant part of the reason why I was able to do as well as I did was because of above average literacy skills all along the way from kindergarten on.
So I don't understand how encouraging your daughter to read if she wants to could be a bad thing. I think the absolute worst thing you could do would be to stifle her interest in any way.
Kappa
Hi gomom, I didn't mean to
Posted on: 06/11/2009 16:59
Hi gomom,
I didn't mean to imply that your child was "gifted" in my post. It sounds like she is interested in language and literacy, as are many other small children and this will probably continue to be an interest. Some kids are not really interested in this at all, but are very good at building things, or very agile and well-coordinated, etc. It can be difficult to motivate a child to read if they are not interested.
As for worrying about something like "ADD" I would forget it: it is way too early for anyone to tell in any case. Many 3 year olds have trouble focusing for "long" periods, and this doesn't even sound like it's a problem for your daughter. It's nice to hear that she gets to pick her own books and that you follow her lead. I believe this helps children to gain a sense of independence and mastery (but that's just my own thoughts).
I believe that it would be better if more teachers recognized that there are a variety of skills for children to master and that sometimes the school environment only allows certain ones to be visible (many teachers do seem to recognize this, though).
lastpointe
I think educators do realilse
Posted on: 06/12/2009 08:44
I think educators do realilse that kids develop differently and most schools reflect it as best as they can.
the child who reads early has a great head start but mostly the other kids catch up. The child who is physically uncoordinated though may take a social beating that doesn't let up.
Charles T
It seems right now that lots
Posted on: 06/16/2009 03:12
It seems right now that lots of kids have some basic reading skills by the time they reach kindergarten, and I remember when I was a kid, MOST kids found school boring at one point or another.
My son reads a lot, he just turned four in April. The other day we got "Hop on Pop" from the library and read almost the whole book himself. We have always let him lead the way in his learning of this. Before he was two he could spell "cat", he knew his alphabet before he could speak it. We made things available to him, fridge magnets, Leap Frog videos (Letter Factory is awesome), flash cards, Hooked on Phonics for Kindergarten, but it is him that says if he wants to do it or not. Sometimes we have gone months where he hasn't done anything toward reading, other times he seems to just sit for days with books, or ask to do his Hooked on Phonics.
Our second son is almost two and calls ever letter E or B. He hasn't seemed interested in it, also we obviously don't spend as much one on one time with him either. However at 13 months he could kick a ball better than his brother who was 3. Am I concerned one is smarter than the other? No, most kids who seem so advanced early on seem to level out after a couple of years at school and the other ones speed up. My son loves to read, and I think it would hurt him if all of a sudden we stopped teaching him, he is always asking what things say, or how to spell them.
Keep going with it - P.S. I too was an early reader and for the most part I loved school.