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Drinking One's Words

To be honest the stupidity of talk show hosts rarely surprises me, but to give this guy credit he did go through with his hyperbole and retracted his previous statements that waterboarding was not torture....

 

Right-Wing Radio Host Gets Waterboarded, and Lasts Six Seconds Before Saying It's Torture

By John Byrne, Raw Story. Posted May 22, 2009.

 

Although one does wonder how many right wing pundits it takes before this barbaric act is seen for what it always was and always will be....

Last year, Vanity Fair writer Christopher Hitchens endured the same experiment -- and came to a similar conclusion. The conservative writer said he found the treatment terrifying, and was haunted by it for months afterward.       Ryan Pollyea, NBCChicago.com

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I'm not going to do it to

I'm not going to do it to find out!!!!

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Hitchens did it twice.  The

Hitchens did it twice.  The second time because he was embarrassed by how quickly he gave up the first time.

 

Think how much money could go to charity if Bush or Cheney or Rumsfeld offered to subject themselves.  I'd lay down $20/second.

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The Hitchen's video is far

The Hitchen's video is far more disturbing, at least I found it more disturbing, and probably more realistic than Muller's.  Both men were visibly shaken after the ordeal and Hitchen commented on what it would be like if you were innoncent and had no information to provide.  He also mentioned that months afterwards he was suffering anxiety attacks and nightmares even though he knew he was in a controlled and "safe" situation.

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Those who have never been

Those who have never been tortured do not know how capable one can be to say anything to avoid it or to bring it to an end... the memories of those things that strip your humanity from you, strip any semblance of it from others... those times you have no control and have nothing but instinct... those things can stick with you sometimes for life. It is a trauma and the post-traumatic stuff can remain for a very long time. I am still dealing with mine two decades later.

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"I am still dealing with mine

"I am still dealing with mine two decades later."

 

If you don't mind me asking, when did this happen?  Was it done for political reasons, and if so, did it happen in Canada?  I realize it's a sensitive subject, so please turn me down if my curiousity is getting the better of me.

 

On that note, Sean Hannity said he's willing to be water-boarded.  Keith Olbermann has offerred to pay $1,000 for every second he lasts.  So far, Hannity has yet to live up to his bravado.  Can anyone guess why? 

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I have to commend those who

I have to commend those who have the chutzpah to put up or shut up.

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I thought this was pretty

I thought this was pretty interesting:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgarV13g6QM

I never liked him much as a wrestler, or an actor, but he sure made sense there.

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Have to agree Alta.   And is

Have to agree Alta.

 

And is there some rule that female right wing pundits have to be blond?

 

Just one of those things that makes me go, hmmmm

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Perhaps the fact that he was

Perhaps the fact that he was a right wing radio host/writer makes it all the more pursuasive.  I thought that he was very honest and forthright.  The way that the reacted to it when he was in a very safe environment made it clear that it would be horrible torture for someone who is being held by an enemy.   

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waterboardi...
Waterboarding is a form of torture that consists of immobilizing a person on their back with the head inclined downward and pouring water over the face and into the breathing passages. Through forced suffocation and inhalation of water, the subject experiences the process of drowning and is made to believe that death is imminent. In contrast to merely submerging the head face-forward, waterboarding almost immediately elicits the gag reflex. Although waterboarding does not always cause lasting physical damage, it carries the risks of extreme pain, damage to the lungs, brain damage caused by oxygen deprivation, injuries (including broken bones) due to struggling against restraints, psychological injury, and death. The psychological effects on victims of waterboarding can last for years after the procedure.

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