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George Galloway - the scumbag who recently spoke at several large United Churches

It is a great mystery why leftists make a hero out of this lying piece of crap.  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0iIGS5lCQ9Y&feature=player_embedded#!

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Here he is in Trinity United

Here he is in Trinity United (I believe) in Toronto, Oct 2010

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Y6Y8ZSYBGs&feature=related

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This is George Galloway vis a

This is George Galloway vis a vie "Democracy Now" , North America's most reliable news and radio source of which I am aware. 

http://youtu.be/M-sWOEJyCfY

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There was the one time when

There was the one time when Mely, graeme and I went camping with George...and when we managed to get him alone, we decided to do something very special for him. Of course, he still doesn't write us or return our phone calls. He really does have sensuous lips.

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Very eloquent, Mely. They

Very eloquent, Mely. They should get you to epeak in church more often.

It's a please to follow your logic.

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Some on the left might

Some on the left might consider him a hero, others might want simply to hear what he has to say. Given that there are those who want to hear Ann Coulter, Glenn Beck and others from FAUX, what's the problem? We have a "rightist" government, too, whose members obviously have a number of speaking opportunities.

 

 

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George Galloway has said some

George Galloway has said some unfortunate things, though not as many or as bad as some people would have you believe.  I'm not in 100% agreement with him on almost everything, but he has my utmost respect for the 2005 US Senate hearing, where he said this:

 

 

Hmmm...embed code not working.  Here's a link:

 

http://youtu.be/HrdFFCnYtbk

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George Galloway = mirror

George Galloway = mirror image of Ann Coulter.  Both are despicable.

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Also, I wonder what was

Also, I wonder what was posted to BCF today?

 

Oh!  Look!

 

Mely, stop being a mouthpiece for that idiotic blog.

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Indeed...thank you, chansen.

Indeed...thank you, chansen.

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Stunning levels of coarseness

Stunning levels of coarseness and semi-literacy in the comments. I'm going to have to watch that blog more closely.

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Sources don't matter!  Didn't

Sources don't matter!  Didn't you know that Chansen?  

 

That's what everyone at Wondercafe has told me (on a thread on the topic), especially Graeme, who considers The New York Times beneath him.

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graeme wrote: Stunning

graeme wrote:

Stunning levels of coarseness and semi-literacy in the comments. I'm going to have to watch that blog more closely.

 

I tried to reason with people using impeccable and respectable sources.  You treated me like I was quoting the National Enquirer.  So I will visit any place I feel like.

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I've never heard of BCF

I've never heard of BCF before but, since the claim in the title of the most recent blog is false, their credibility is already in doubt.

 

BCF wrote:
 

 

...this scumbag is a hero to the NDP

 

 

A search of the NDP website for Galloway (by using www.ndp.ca/search) produces one hit from March 2009 that follows. It's hardly an endorsement of George Galloway but rather it's a comment on the decision of the government.

 

 

Minister of Censorship Jason Kenney denies entry to British MP Galloway

 

 

 

 
OTTAWA – Canadians interested in hearing international experts deliver anti-war messages will now have to leave the country to do so. British MP George Galloway, who was schedule to talk on resisting the war in Afghanistan, was banned by Harper’s government from entering Canada.
 
 
“Harper's Conservatives are wrong to bar MP George Galloway,” said New Democrat Immigration Critic Olivia Chow. “The Minister of Immigration is becoming the ‘Minister of Censorship’. This bunker mentality indicates a government afraid of hearing contradictory points of view."
 
 
Minister Kenny’s reasons for denying George Galloway entry are an affront to freedom of speech and show the Harper government is frightened of an open debate on an unpopular war. A spokesperson for the Minister said Galloway is “inadmissible” to Canada due to his opposition to the deployment of NATO troops in Afghanistan.
 
 
“By the Minister’s own twisted logic anyone who opposed the war in Afghanistan should be barred entry to Canada,” continued Chow. “Would the Minister do the same to veteran British Conservative MP Sir Peter Tapsell, who called the war ‘unwinnable’ and once said it was ‘widely understood’ that the Taliban were ‘not international terrorists’?” (London Times, July 2, 2008)
 
 
"Canadians are able to make their own judgement on the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq and freedom of speech is critical in a democratic country,” said Chow.
 
 
Stephen Harper’s Conservative government has a history of banning people from Canada who do not support his views on war. In October 2007 US Peacemakers Medea Benjamin, co-founder of CodePink and retired Colonel Ann Wright were barred from speaking at a Toronto peace conference.
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you still con't understand

you still con't understand sources, EO. And you never will. You will never learn anything you don't want to know.

I gave you a case where a sernior reported admitted in an interview that the report he did on Libyan bombing was misleading. You have never responded to it. You never will. You will go on reading only that which you want to believe, quoting only that which you want to quote.

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Sources don't matter, Mof5.

Sources don't matter, Mof5.  (That is what Graeme says over and over).

 

As for you Graeme, give me your link.  If it was so misleading why didn't NYT publish a correction?

 

You say "I won't ever learn anything I don't want to know."   Look in mirror, pal.

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graeme wrote: you still

graeme wrote:

you still con't understand sources, EO. And you never will. 

 

Thanks for those diplomatic words.  Please refer to this thread for the WC viewpoint on outside sources:

 

http://www.wondercafe.ca/discussion/politics/sources-and-big-picture

 

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BAH HUMBUG--this thread is

BAH HUMBUG--this thread is over for me!

 

funny pictures - IT NEVER FAILS...

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EO   Haha! I see you

EO

 

Haha!

I see you also peruse the Icanhazcheezburger site.

I have often wondered what Graeme DOESN'T consider beneath him? I am surprised he talks to us low IQ peasants at all.

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If opposing the war in

If opposing the war in Afghanistan makes you a "scumbag", I guess I am too.

It's OK not to agree, it's not OK to stop people from disagreeing with you.

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EO - I have sent you links.

EO - I have sent you links. You pay not the slightest attention. Then you offer the absurd argument that if the NYT was misleading, why didn't it say so?  Duh, I dunno.

Wow! sure proof it couldn't nave been misleading.

Just join Pingatrishcuit and Mely in calling names. It's so much easier than thinking. Scumbag is good - clear, descrirptive, concise. fartface conveys a vivid image.

Perhaps you might think of rewriting the parables, this time putting them in the sort of colorful and descriptive language Jesus was so lacking in.

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I did not wish to return here

I did not wish to return here to post, but I must rebut some of this.

 

Daviticus:  No one said Galloway was disreputable for opposing the Afghan war.  The situation is much more complex than that.  

 

I personally would not have posted this video, since Galloway is a fringe character and has a limited following.  By posting it, she will be if anything drawing in adherents.

 

Many people are opposed to the Afghan war, including the bizarre Republican candidate Ron Paul.   If X opposed the Afghan war, and then someone else criticizes X, it does not then follow that you must agree with everything X stands for simply on that basis alone.  

 

Graeme:  You did NOT give me a link.  You told me to look something up on Democracy Now, a name I can no longer remember.

 

Democracy Now = mirror image of Fox News.

 

I would like a more unbiased source and I would like the actual link please, not just instructions on how "go and google it."  

 

 

I am not calling anyone names.  That was Mely's title, not mine.  As I said, I would never have posted it in the first place.

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it's hard to see threads like

it's hard to see threads like this, they are hostile-- and I shouldn't even read them, or comment I guess...I won't even attempt to say anything about the subject of the OP...to begin with, any thread starting off with derogatory names in the title is already off to a bad start.

 

I am just here to comment that when i see post titles  like this and the resulting arguing that is bound to happen, I feel really down--it's definitely not peace making mentality--it;s not constructive--no wonder there are wars, really. I wish we could learn to express our differences of opinion without mudslinging and opening up old arguments.

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EO - you can't google

EO - you can't google democracy now? That's a challenge?

I've no doubt DN has faults. but the comment I cited is a direct quotation from the NYT reporter. And if the NYT did not specify the reporter was looking only at a smal sample of bomb sites then, no, I don't think much of the NYT.

As well, use common sense. The idea that we can bomb cities with tens of hundreds of thousands of bombs over a period of six months and kill only 80 or so civilians is bizarre.

Anyway, if evil is just built into Islam, then that means are closest allies (Saudi Arabia, the Emirates) are evil.

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gaeme, I think "evil" is a

gaeme, I think "evil" is a good descriptor for the culture in Saudi Arabia.  Read about what happens to many foreign domestic workers in Saudi Arabia.  It is extremely grusome and upsetting.  

 

 

http://www.google.ca/webhp?hl=en&tab=Xw#hl=en&sclient=psy-ab&q=domestic+workers+in+saudi+arabia+abuse&pbx=1&oq=domestic+workers+in+saudi+arabia+abuse&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=6946l9313l0l9763l6l6l0l0l0l0l226l1066l1.3.2l6l0&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=5fb4cfc907b8e1e7&biw=1138&bih=535

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Please see follow-up comments

Please see follow-up comments about the NATO bombing operation in Libya under the correct thread.

 

http://www.wondercafe.ca/discussion/politics/natos-civilian-death-toll-l...

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Well, Saudi Arabia controls

Well, Saudi Arabia controls its people with weapons supplied by the US. (And the old dictatorship of Egypt was the largest recipient in the world of US aid - most of it going to the army leadership.) In fact, the US is the weapons supplier and government supporter for dictatorships all over thw world.

So who's evil?

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Kimmio wrote: it's hard to

Kimmio wrote:

it's hard to see threads like this, they are hostile-- and I shouldn't even read them, or comment I guess...I won't even attempt to say anything about the subject of the OP...to begin with, any thread starting off with derogatory names in the title is already off to a bad start.

 

I am just here to comment that when i see post titles  like this and the resulting arguing that is bound to happen, I feel really down--it's definitely not peace making mentality--it;s not constructive--no wonder there are wars, really. I wish we could learn to express our differences of opinion without mudslinging and opening up old arguments.

I agree completely. Looking back now, it was probably unwise to comment in this thread at all.

EO: You're right, of course. You don't have to support someone just because someone you dislike criticizes them. I just wanted to make clear my feelings on that sort of Canadian jingoism.

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I did have to laugh at the

I did have to laugh at the person from Blazing Cat Fur labeling the fellow a Nazi as I don't even think Galloway could make up his mind long enough to support any form of regime.

 

 

 

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I wonder how many of us could

I wonder how many of us could define the word Nazi? I'm not at all sure I could.

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In the "future", all of our

In the "future", all of our conversations online will be written by 'bots :3

 

and soon, we won't even have to do interesting hijinks in off-line life at all, it will all be done by robots, with robots acting out all sorts of normal acts, atrocious acts (flying robot planes into robot buildings), robots protesting the ruling robots, and so forth.  and we'll be there, their loved & cared for pets, watching and listening in complete safety :3

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