qwerty
So ladies … is Leonard Cohen “fatherly”?
Posted on: 08/14/2009 00:07
Over on religion the subject of Leonard Cohen came up as a little sidebar to one of the threads. Someone suggested that Leonard Cohen was "fatherly". I said that only he was not "fatherly" but "dangerous". Just to get things going here is what I wrote:
Yeah Mendalla, I know what you mean. I was thinking about his novel Beautiful Losers or some of his earlier records and poetry. Admittedly now he has a more mellow (and I suppose more marketable) demeanour and image but I think he's pretty well the same old Leonard. He was heavily influenced by Irving Layton who was an angry and sex obsessed Canadian poet if there ever was one and in the 60's both of them were considered pretty iconoclastic and not very nice. But that's when it was still possible to "talk dirty". The best test though is to ask the women. They always loved him and still do. They are always drawn to the "bad boys".
In the sixties and seventies there was a fairly large contingent (especially among the parents of the time), I think, who would have opined that as skilled as he was, he was really only interested in writing poetry because it was a great way to get introduced to free thinking college girls (O God! How good they looked in their baggy beatnik sweaters, their pointy bras and their beehive hairdos!) who chain smoked, swore like troopers and wanted to get laid by a poet. He was not the kind of boy parents hoped their daughter would meet at college.
So ladies … is Leonard Cohen “fatherly”?
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ninjafaery
"Butterflies and laundry
Posted on: 08/14/2009 00:42
"Butterflies and laundry flutter
My love -- her hair's as blonde as butter."
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"With Annie gone,
Whose eyes to compare with the morning sun?
(Not that I did compare, but I do compare -- now that she's gone).
Really, how could a young woman resist?
Boots
He surely has been gifted
Posted on: 08/14/2009 00:55
He surely has been gifted with a golden voice that would make any women week in the knees.
Boots
I would LOVE to have him over
Posted on: 08/14/2009 00:56
I would LOVE to have him over for supper he seems like such an amazing conversationalist.
Pilgrims Progress
"Like a bird on the wire Like
Posted on: 08/14/2009 01:56
"Like a bird on the wire
Like a drunk in a midnight choir
I have tried in my way to be free."
Fatherly? You gotta be kidding. I'd have him over for supper.........
somegirl
Sexy? Yes. Fatherly? No
Posted on: 08/15/2009 06:24
Sexy? Yes. Fatherly? No way. Not to say that he would be a bad father or anything, he seems like a nice enough guy. I'm just talking about the image I get from his music and writing. I mean, I just can't see how anyone who who would write a scene about an elaborate sex toy coming to life could be seen as 'fatherly'.
LBmuskoka
I am well aware that Leonard
Posted on: 08/15/2009 08:25
I am well aware that Leonard is anything but fatherly. I am equally well aware of his opinion of women and what position they should assume buuuut....
I love the man. He is a poet. What more can be said....
its the hat baby!
abpenny
I don't see Leonard as
Posted on: 08/15/2009 08:26
I don't see Leonard as fatherly or sexy....but love his poetry and music.
Elanorgold
Definately not fatherly, and
Posted on: 08/16/2009 12:42
Definately not fatherly, and not sexy at his age either. He's like a dirty old man now! But I do like his songs and writting. It is good to know though that one can be one's same old self when one gets to his age, educational. I actually have a great respect for him, though I may skip his dirtier lines!
redhead
sexy, hot ,dangerously
Posted on: 08/16/2009 13:43
sexy, hot ,dangerously intelligent and, as a Toronto store on the avant garde Queen Street West is named : so hip it hurts.
his eloquence alone is enough to woo me.
redhead
pilgrim, i might ask him to
Posted on: 08/16/2009 13:45
pilgrim, i might ask him to stay for breakfast ;)
redhead
qwerty, sans pointy bra and
Posted on: 08/16/2009 13:58
qwerty, sans pointy bra and a mass of curly red hair instead of the 'hive, i was an awful lot like that - yet alternately completely preppy for work and special occasions...i am gonna miss my Docs... but i still have some wit left - don'tcha think ? ;)
Our Lady Of Solitude lyrics
All summer long she touched me
She gathered in my soul
From many a thorn, from many thickets
Her fingers, like a weaver's
Quick and cool
And the light came from her body
And the night went through her grace
All summer long she touched me
And I knew her, I knew her
Face to face
And her dress was blue and silver
And her words were few and small
She is the vessel of the whole wide world
Mistress, oh mistress, of us all
Dearly dead; Queen of Solitude
I thank you with my heart
for keeping me so close to thee
while so many, oh so many, stood apart
And the light came from her body
And the night went through her grace
All summer long she touched me
I knew her, I knew her
Face to face
Pilgrims Progress
redhead wrote: pilgrim, i
Posted on: 08/16/2009 17:33
pilgrim, i might ask him to stay for breakfast ;)
In that case, I hope the hospital food improves.
redhead
lmao, pp!!!!
Posted on: 08/16/2009 17:54
lmao, pp!!!!
LBmuskoka
For all of Cohen's strut
Posted on: 08/17/2009 06:06
For all of Cohen's strut there is a smigdeon of humility about him. I think when I fell in love with him was when at the Grammy's he said, and I'm paraphrasing, "You gotta love a country that gives an award for Best Vocals to a man who can't sing"
And watch the video above, there is a twinkle in those eyes that telegraphs, I'm having fun and at the end, I swear!, there is a look of gratitude. I want that twinkle when I'm 75.
A toast to Leonard, and all of us, may we always dance on the polka dots!
lastpointe
I love him and now that he is
Posted on: 08/17/2009 13:36
I love him and now that he is older he is just one of those lucky guys who gets sexier. Paul Newman was the same, older and sexier.
Sexy voice, sexy manner, self effacing, great!
Kappa
OMG the voice! I have a thing
Posted on: 08/17/2009 17:05
OMG the voice! I have a thing for deep gravelly voices. Combine that with the lyrics and you have awesomness. Yes, he is gettting into "dirty old man" territory, but he doesn't seem to act like one, so I forgive him for aging, as we must all do in any case.
I've never thought of the adjective "fatherly" to describe him, though. I guess because that adjective seems to conjure up images of my own father, who is not like Leonard at all.
ninjafaery
"Song to Bernadette" 'nuff
Posted on: 08/17/2009 19:36
"Song to Bernadette"
'nuff said.
I think it's the tension between his deeply-felt and poetic spirituality and the side of him that hints at his being the "roue" (that word can't be used with much sincerity very often) that's attractive. He is able to convey the sacred and profane existing amicably in one person.
lastpointe
Here is a you tube clip of
Posted on: 08/18/2009 12:46
Here is a you tube clip of his recent concert in London. The CD is wonderful for those Cohen fans.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttv5dyvtF4o&feature=fvst
I love this song and he sings it the best.