Here's the situation...
My Yobo, her 21 year old niece, her 19 year old son, and I are going camping this weekend near Kingston, Ontario.
Four people going camping together.
We have two tents.
Each tent sleeps a maximum of two people.
4 people / 2 tents = 2 people / tent.
The question is: Who should sleep together?
My Yobo's idea is that she should stay in the same tent as her niece, and that her son should stay in the same tent as me.
My idea is that my Yobo and I should share one tent, while my Yobo's niece and son share the other.
Whose idea is best and please state why.
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Hilary
Her way is best. It feels
Posted on: 07/16/2010 17:57
Her way is best.
It feels old-fashioned to say, but I don't think two kids that age should be forced to stay together -- cousins or not. I guess you could ask them if they mind sharing, but my guess is that a 21 year-old girl doesn't want to share with her "bratty teenage cousin". (Of course, I don't know that about your son. I only know that it's how I would feel.)
I think if the kids are okay with it - let them share. But there's no way that I'd be telling a niece that she has to share with a male cousin.
Witch
Why would this even be an
Posted on: 07/16/2010 18:12
Why would this even be an issue?
lastpointe
Girls tent and boys
Posted on: 07/16/2010 18:29
Girls tent and boys tent.
The young people should not be put into an uncomfortable situation sharing a tent, two man tents are pretty cozy.
You can always sleep under the stars if you don't want to share with your step son
MorningCalm
lastpointe wrote: You can
Posted on: 07/16/2010 18:40
You can always sleep under the stars if you don't want to share with your step son
Stepson or not, sleeping under the stars is something I considered. I just don't know how the bugs would be. What do you think? Would it be tolerable? You know, that wouldn't be bad. I'm up for sleeping under God's canopy of light. My stepson would love to have one tent to himself, and my Yobo and her niece could share.
crazyheart
i can't even believe you are
Posted on: 07/16/2010 18:41
i can't even believe you are asking the question.
MorningCalm
crazyheart wrote: i can't
Posted on: 07/16/2010 18:45
i can't even believe you are asking the question.
What, you mean about the bugs? I don't want to get mosquito bitten is all.
lastpointe
Under the stars is fun.
Posted on: 07/16/2010 18:55
Under the stars is fun. Depends where you are about the bugs though once it gets dark they generally disappear
have fun
seeler
If you are serious about
Posted on: 07/16/2010 20:21
If you are serious about sleeping out, I think you should look into some type of netting over your head to keep the bugs off. And, believe it or not, even in this hot weather it will get cold outside before dawn so make sure you have an adequate sleeping bag. Also check the weather report. Otherwise, crawl into the tent with your step son, or make a dive for the car. You're a big man to curl up in the back seat but maybe you can get comfortable pushing the front seat back as far as possible and reclining the back as much as possible.
Otherwise its the girls in one tent, the guys in the other.
Right now we put the grandkids together when they sleep over; but they are 13 and 6. If they were both 13 or older I think one of them would be in the livingroom or the den.
Witch
Dew go ahead and sleep
Posted on: 07/16/2010 21:06
Dew go ahead and sleep outside.... if you can swim.
carolla
Indeed witch ... the humidity
Posted on: 07/16/2010 21:15
Indeed witch ... the humidity has been VERY high around here lately and the grass has been very dewy in the morning!! It reminds me of when I was a kid at summer camp, slip sliding down the dewy grass hil toward the waterfront for early morning dip ... ah ... the bits and pieces that float to the surface of our consciousness ... even on the morning dew.
FishingDude
I think it might be too hot
Posted on: 07/16/2010 21:20
I think it might be too hot to sleep in a tent with the heat wave right now, too stuffy and stifeling, I was thinking of trying a camping experience again next week. My daughter loves the marshmallow roasting!
The last couple of experiences was nice at first with quiet peace , birds and butterflies, tranquil and relaxing once we've set up. ........
Then the cars full of teenagers pull up with the base players blasting, right beside us and get out and have a maryjane and molson marathon until 3 am. Thats what ruined it for me, so I havn't been since!
Witch
We usually go to sites that
Posted on: 07/16/2010 22:38
We usually go to sites that are only accessible by water. And a few that you can't get a power boat into either.
Less chance of teenagers, including our own
MorningCalm
FishingDude wrote: Then the
Posted on: 07/16/2010 23:14
Then the cars full of teenagers pull up with the base players blasting, right beside us and get out and have a maryjane and molson marathon until 3 am. Thats what ruined it for me, so I havn't been since!
My stepson's a pretty quiet kid. Still, when he found out our campsite won't have electricity, his immediate reaction was, "But how am I going to listen to music as I fall asleep?"
Witch
Tell him you've arranged for
Posted on: 07/17/2010 01:08
Tell him you've arranged for a special concert appearance by The Crickets
jon71
I lean towards a boys and
Posted on: 07/17/2010 06:44
I lean towards a boys and girls tent. However if the "kids" are both o.k. with doing it the other way I don't think that's actually wrong.
lastpointe
You have probably gone by
Posted on: 07/17/2010 08:57
You have probably gone by now Jae, but to sleep out under the stars you need a tarp to put under your bag. Get a big one so that if it rains you can pull it over top of you too.
You can buy mosquitos net hats at canadian tire if you are worried about bugs although in Collingwood right now it is very windy and keeping the bugs at bay.
I agree that the best/most back to nature camping is going inland in a canoe. You should consider trying it Jae. Algonquin park will outfit you with all you need , tents, packs, canoes, life jackets, paddles......... Two nights in the park would be lovely, 5 even better but paddling is hard work, don't be confused on that
Birthstone
for all it takes to borrow
Posted on: 07/17/2010 10:37
for all it takes to borrow another small tent, or buy one for a few days (if you're sticking to sunny weather, then who cares if its a good one) - I'd go for a 3rd tent. Those young adults are adults - they'd like their own space. Trust me, unless you like to be snuggled up close together (and I see that there is one pair of people in this 4-some that like that) you dont' want to share a tent together.
Buy/borrow another tent and have a great time!!!
FishingDude
Witch wrote: Tell him you've
Posted on: 07/17/2010 21:14
Tell him you've arranged for a special concert appearance by The Crickets
FishingDude
Just don't fart in a tent!
Posted on: 07/17/2010 22:25
Just don't fart in a tent! thats the worse!
Pinga
borrow another tent
Posted on: 07/17/2010 22:37
borrow another tent
DaisyJane
I am jumping into the
Posted on: 07/18/2010 07:43
I am jumping into the conversation fairly late in the day and my guess is that all has already been decided. However, I must add that I agree with the girl's tent and boy's tent plan. I feel that by the teens mixed sleeping arrangements tend to be uncomfortable and inappropriate.
Being the only woman in an all male family this will work well for me in future years!!!! All the boys can be in one tent and I can sleep with hubby.
MorningCalm
We had a great, peaceful,
Posted on: 07/18/2010 22:22
We had a great, peaceful, relaxing, medatative time at Charleston Lake. The bugs weren't bad at all. We had some awesome food. I introduced my Korean family to the Canadian tradition of fire toasted hotdogs and smores. My niece and I went on a wonderful nature trail that went by a lake and over rocks.
Oh, and just for the record, my Yobo and her niece shared one tent, I stayed alone in the second, and my stepson slept in the car (his choice). At around 7am my Yobo and I got up, and my stepson crawled into the tent I had been sleeping in.
carolla
Sounds like a great weekend
Posted on: 07/19/2010 17:24
Sounds like a great weekend jae!
Northwind
It does sound like a great
Posted on: 07/19/2010 18:27
It does sound like a great weekend Jae.
We were camping this weekend and found a new treat. Roasted marshmallows in a "sandwich" of two-bite brownies......yum.
MorningCalm
Northwind wrote: It does
Posted on: 07/19/2010 19:16
It does sound like a great weekend Jae.
We were camping this weekend and found a new treat. Roasted marshmallows in a "sandwich" of two-bite brownies......yum.
Ooh that does sound good. Where did you camp?
Pinga
Your stepson is old enough
Posted on: 07/19/2010 19:23
Your stepson is old enough that the following doesn't apply however, just another way of looking at "girls/boys" tents.
One cannot presume that a youth is any safer in a situation just because the genders are the same than they would be if they were different.
I would not want a youth other than my own in a tent alone with me. It sets me up for false accusations, and it sets up the youth if I was a pedophile.
There was a time when people thought it was "safe"...ie just let the guys sleep in the tent together...with "uncle bob". After all, didn't he offer to ensure they were safe and didn't leave. We now know that such an item is a perfect setup. I also know personally of a an adult male who molested teenage boys in the tent in his yard -- that was the price they paid for being able to drink and hang out with their girlfriends.
better to be safe.
separate tents
Northwind
Lodestar wrote: Northwind
Posted on: 07/19/2010 22:51
It does sound like a great weekend Jae.
We were camping this weekend and found a new treat. Roasted marshmallows in a "sandwich" of two-bite brownies......yum.
Ooh that does sound good. Where did you camp?
We were in Grande Prairie Alberta. It was our friends who introduced us to this wonderful treat.......I think I will start a new thread to discuss this and other favourite recipes.
Azdgari
Unless you and your Yobo are
Posted on: 07/22/2010 00:29
Unless you and your Yobo are uncomfortable yourselves with the idea of one sleeping arrangement or the other, I think you should let the kids decide. After all, it's for their benefit.
Serena
I would not want my daughter
Posted on: 07/22/2010 00:58
I would not want my daughter (if I had one) to sleep in a boy's tent even if that boy was a relative.
Azdgari
Why not?
Posted on: 07/22/2010 01:00
Why not?
seeler
My initial reaction was: you
Posted on: 07/22/2010 06:20
My initial reaction was: you don't put boys and girls together at this age, even if they are cousins. My son is home visiting right now. I ran this by him. "You mean if it were me and "D - D" (his only girl cousin, 4 months his senior)? No problem. Neither of us would have a problem sharing a tent.
Then I remembered. My two sisters and I had six children in less than six years - four boys and two girls. Many-a-time when they were children we would get together for a family reunion and all six kids would be rolled up in sleeping bags on the floor of the rec room or camp. So sharing a tent for one or two nights on a family camp trip would just be a continuation of an old family sleeping arrangement as far as Son was concerned.
So now, I guess my answer to the original question would be: "it depends on the relationship between these two cousins, how well they know each other, how relaxed they are together. So, I guess, leaving it up to the kids would be the best solution.
Also, letting a teenage boy choose to sleep in the car rather than sharing a tent with his step father works out ok too. Better than the dad having to sleep in the car.
kaythecurler
Seeler - I know many times
Posted on: 07/22/2010 10:20
Seeler - I know many times when kids of both sexes shared sleeping space. I also know two families where this brought innappropriate sexual experimentation. I don't think there is an 'easy correct all the time' answer.
Pinga
heh kay, that happens
Posted on: 07/22/2010 10:54
heh kay, that happens regardless of gender.
kaythecurler
Yes it happens in many
Posted on: 07/22/2010 13:02
Yes it happens in many combinations. Sure is a tough situation when one parent is threatening legal action (inadequates supervision maybe).