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Getting Even

I am concerned about one of my facebook friends.

 

A couple of months ago she was in a relationship with a guy.  They were supposed to not be seeing other people but she found out he was so she broke it off.  Problem is she really fell for this guy.   So now she e-mailed him and told him he was the father of her child and that she was pregnant and still wants nothing to do with him.  She is not pregnant she just wants him back.

 

If he comes back she will "have a miscarraige" if not it will bug him that he can't have contact with his kid.  This way she will break up his current relationship.

 

What do you guys thnk?  

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If she ain't careful she

If she ain't careful she might get hurt really badly one day by a guy who is not nearly as understanding

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I would consider her very

I would consider her very foolish to try to deceive someone like that.   It reminds of the sort of thing that went on at Junior High.  People aren't puppets to be manipulated and jerked around. 

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People aren't puppets to be

People aren't puppets to be manipulated and jerked around.

Apparantly submissives are just that

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I think at best your friend

I think at best your friend is petty and small, and at worst she's unbalanced. I expect that kind of tawdry nastiness in characters in soap operas, not in real life. She should (a) tell the truth and (b) break off all contact with the guy, although if she does tell the truth chances are he'll be sure to avoid her from here on out.

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I think he made a wise choice

I think he made a wise choice to end this "relationship". He probably sensed she had a few screws loose.

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waterfall wrote: I think he

waterfall wrote:

I think he made a wise choice to end this "relationship". He probably sensed she had a few screws loose.

 

She ended the relationship because she found out he was sleeping with someone else.

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I think that this is a good

I think that this is a good idea.  He should have broken it off with her not kept using her for sex until one of the women caught him.

 

I think he deserves this and I am going to help her.

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Ya know when you dig a grave

Ya know when you dig a grave for someone else sometimes ya fall in yourself ......

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Do you really want to make

Do you really want to make this your battle, Serena?  Do you really want to involve yourself in something that is between the two of them to deal with?  Have you thought of the impact this could have on your own mental well being?

 

I am often reminded of how when children have a little spat and an overzealous mother jumps in to try and solve and make things right instead of giving the children time to work it out.  The children very quickly fight and make up and carry on, and the mother is left with feelings of frustration, and high emotion - and probably would have been better off just staying out of things.

 

 

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I personally don't think

I personally don't think lying, deceipt, or trickery is the best way to deal with a bad or ending relationship, or to try and keep a bad relationship going.

 

 

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Serena - I agree with

Serena - I agree with beloved. It seems that you have enough to deal with right now without becoming involved in this deceitfulness.

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Why does everybody who posts

Why does everybody who posts on the various threads become Serena's enabler?

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Good point Crazyheart. Serena

Good point Crazyheart. Serena needs to start looking out for herself and may the chips fall where they may.

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Double post sorry

Double post sorry

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Beloved wrote: Do you really

Beloved wrote:

Do you really want to make this your battle, Serena?   

 

Why not?

 

Beloved wrote:
Do you really want to involve yourself in something that is between the two of them to deal with?  

Again why not?  

 

Beloved wrote:
Have you thought of the impact this could have on your own mental well being?

 

Why would this impact my mental wellbeing?

 

 

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pommum wrote: Serena - I

pommum wrote:

Serena - I agree with beloved. It seems that you have enough to deal with right now without becoming involved in this deceitfulness.

 

I have nothing to deal with.  The chips will fall where they may.  There is nothing I can do about it.  

 

In fact I have lots of time to deal with issues like this since I have no family anymore to occupy my time.

 

I admit this is not a good example.  But I have nobody to set an example for.  I have no children.   I have no God.   I answer to no one.  I am like the lone ranger. 

 

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crazyheart wrote: Why does

crazyheart wrote:

Why does everybody who posts on the various threads become Serena's enabler?

 

This is off topic and disrepectful.

 

I would appreciate it Crazyheart if you stayed out of my threads and did not respond to my posts.  You have shown me numerous times in the past that you have no respect for me so I am not interested in your opinion.   If you do not like the topic of the thread simply stay out of it.  Do not come in and preach and preferrably do not come in at all.  I do not follow you around wondercafe and make ridiculous accusations.

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jesouhaite777 wrote: Ya know

jesouhaite777 wrote:

Ya know when you dig a grave for someone else sometimes ya fall in yourself ......

 

That is actually a proverb.  Anyway, I am not digging the grave.   I am just going to go along when they meet to discuss the baby.

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Not a bad idea your friend

Not a bad idea your friend might need you later on to apply the bandages .....

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Serena, you posted above that

Serena, you posted above that you were going to go along with this to help her.  This implies to me that you are choosing to take an active part in this, not just be there as a support to your friend.  The "why" is why would you want to take part in something that is dishonest and aims to hurt other people.  You ask "why not" - the why not would be for your own personal sense . . . not being involved, not linking yourself to something that is not right (In my opinion it is not right to tell someone there is a baby, when there is not one).

 

I think it could affect yourmental well being when down the road you could possibly have to deal with how your part in this encouraged and aided in hurting other people and affected their lives.  If you are helping your friend you are encouraging her to be dishonest - I think that at some point that is going to bother you.

 

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Serena wrote:     But I have

Serena wrote:

 

  But I have nobody to set an example for.  I have no children.   I have no God.   I answer to no one.  I am like the lone ranger. 

 

 

You have yourself, Serena . . .

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Beloved wrote: Serena, you

Beloved wrote:

Serena, you posted above that you were going to go along with this to help her.  This implies to me that you are choosing to take an active part in this, not just be there as a support to your friend.  The "why" is why would you want to take part in something that is dishonest and aims to hurt other people.  You ask "why not" - the why not would be for your own personal sense . . . not being involved, not linking yourself to something that is not right (In my opinion it is not right to tell someone there is a baby, when there is not one).

 

I think it could affect yourmental well being when down the road you could possibly have to deal with how your part in this encouraged and aided in hurting other people and affected their lives.  If you are helping your friend you are encouraging her to be dishonest - I think that at some point that is going to bother you.

 

 

There are consequences for women in sexual relationships and few for men.  This will be evening the score.  What everyone seems to miss is that this guy was lying to her, telling her he loved her, all the while bedding another woman.

 

Why walk away and let him get off scott free?  He should be made to suffer like my friend whose heart is broken.

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Serena]</p> <p>[quote=Beloved

Serena]</p> <p>[quote=Beloved wrote:

Serena, you posted above that you were going to go along with this to help her.  This implies to me that you are choosing to take an active part in this, not just be there as a support to your friend.  The "why" is why would you want to take part in something that is dishonest and aims to hurt other people.  You ask "why not" - the why not would be for your own personal sense . . . not being involved, not linking yourself to something that is not right (In my opinion it is not right to tell someone there is a baby, when there is not one).

 

I think it could affect yourmental well being when down the road you could possibly have to deal with how your part in this encouraged and aided in hurting other people and affected their lives.  If you are helping your friend you are encouraging her to be dishonest - I think that at some point that is going to bother you.

 

 

There are consequences for women in sexual relationships and few for men.  This will be evening the score.  What everyone seems to miss is that this guy was lying to her, telling her he loved her, all the while bedding another woman.

 

Why walk away and let him get off scott free?  He should be made to suffer like my friend whose heart is broken.

Down the road I will feel good because I helped a friend teach a guy a lesson and maybe he won't do this to other women in the future.

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Beloved wrote:   You have

Beloved wrote:

 

You have yourself, Serena . . .

 

That is like the lone ranger or Robin Hood.  But wait Robin had his band of merry men.  So I am like the lone ranger.

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I agree in teaching the dude

I agree in teaching the dude a lesson but there are tons of ways to do it ..... your friend is not terribly creative at this and neither are you .... considering her actions im starting to wonder if his cheating is not perfectly justifyiable ... and they were just in a relationship not ball and chain married ... some people have wayyyyyyy too high expections when they are just sharing dirty laundry ......

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Seems to me that "getting

Seems to me that "getting even" is sinking down to the same level as the transgressor \i don't see how that can be at all healthy for your friend. or you

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jes wrote:I agree in teaching

jes wrote:
I agree in teaching the dude a lesson but there are tons of ways to do it .....

 

Then give me some ideas and I will pass them along to her.

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Serena, maybe one way your

Serena, maybe one way your friend can teach the guy a lesson, is by moving on without him. Would she even really want someone like him in her life? Probably not in the long run. Right now it may hurt, but it opens her up to be free to meet someone who will respect her and treat her well. This guy sounds like he never could do that. In the end, it's his loss, not hers.

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Then give me some ideas and I

Then give me some ideas and I will pass them along to her.

She sounds pretty devious enough Im sure she can come up with something .... some personal humiliation................. either way .....  I don't think your friend could handle any kind of fallout .... she is definately cruisin for a brusin if ya know what i mean .... somethings you just can take back when you do them .... this is bordering on pathetic if ya ask me ... all this energy on some dude .... she needs to get a life ....

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There's an old saying; "the

There's an old saying; "the best revenge is living well".

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Serena, in another thread

Serena, in another thread (specialmom's when family member enagages in destructive behavior) you post "I would suggest that you be there for this family member but refuse to lie for this person."   I sincerely hope you remember your own advice when deciding to be involved in any untruths your friend may choose to tell in her own situation.

 

 

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Beloved wrote: Serena, in

Beloved wrote:

Serena, in another thread (specialmom's when family member enagages in destructive behavior) you post "I would suggest that you be there for this family member but refuse to lie for this person."   I sincerely hope you remember your own advice when deciding to be involved in any untruths your friend may choose to tell in her own situation.

 

 

 

There are major differences here:

 

1.   I am not a Christian and Specialmom is.

2.  My friend is single and so is her ex.

3.  There are no children involved  (either mine to see what a crazy thing I am doing or hers or his)

4.  My friend's ex deserves this for lying ot her and being unfaithful.

5.  I am not feeling sorry for the guy at all.  He had sex outside of marriage.  With sex (inside or outside the marriage) there is the risk for becoming pregnant no matter whether you use birth control or not.  So he's brave  to have sex with two women at the same time.

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She and I met him at Timmy's

She and I met him at Timmy's and she told him last night.

 

I am the baby's godmother which is why I am along for all their meetings.

 

He "needs time to think"  translation he needs to pick which girlfriend he wants to be with and he really wants to be part of the baby's life.

 

(we discussed briefly my friend giving the child up for adoption....he would adopt the baby,  we discussed abortion.... (a definite no) and we discussed how HE would be involved in child rearing)  I told him it would be very limited since he is so dishonest.  We would not want the child to grow up like him.

 

Before the meeting we went shopping for maternity clothes which I am taking back today.  But when he came in he saw us ooohing and aaahing over the maternity clothes and then he guessed what was coming.

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  A  few pointers:   Do not

 

A  few pointers:

 

Do not accept money from this guy for the baby.

 

Do not let the charade go on too long.  Your friend needs to end the charade and not get caught for it to be effective.

 

I would say a reasonable time for the charade to go on would be about a month or so.

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Oh my . . .

Oh my . . .

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What you will be teaching

What you will be teaching this guy is that women can't be trusted. Thus you will only be confirming what he already thinks, and giving him an excuse for his dishonesty. Why should a man be truthful in relationships if women aren't?

 

Thus he will continue to treat women this way, and the next woman who falls victim to his manipulations will have you to thank for it.

 

You cannot fight lies with lies. All you do is strengthen them.

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wow Serena,   This is another

wow Serena,

 

This is another new "friend" from face book.  and one that you are helping to set up a situation to deceive.  This woman who is your new face book friend was two timed by a guy she was dating.  SO what.  She was two timed and found out and broke it off.  She is doing this elaborate charade to either wina guy back who two times her or to ruin his life.

 

this is childish at best, cruel, dishonest and beneath the behaviour of women.

 

If she doesn't want to see the guy, stop seeing him.  If she wants him back, then go about it honestly.

 

You aren't concerned about this for some bizaare reason. and you have time on your hands?

 

I thought you were back at school to get your RN degree.

 

Since your parents have died you have suddenly decided to not believe in God anymore.  you have anger issues and you arent' dealing with them.

 

Instead you are suddenly acting like a teenager, meeting new friends on face book who both sound liek dubious characters ( the other one is a gypsy fortune teller of some sort)

 

If you don't find this whole scene cruel and juvenile then there is something worng with you.

 

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Serena,   You and your

Serena,

 

You and your 'friend' likely should not have watched Labor Pains with Lindsay Lohan.

 

You may not want to consult a therapist, but you likely should consult a lawyer. Faking a pregnancy is not against the law, but involving him, his reputation and a fraud on him in the fake pregnancy likely is.

 

There are laws about slander and defamation and you both could be held libel. You are taking part in what it is she is doing and it is informed involvement. 

 

If you tell anyone he impreganted her, you are defaming his reputation.

 

A spouse can get out of a marital contract over being lied to about a pregnancy. In this case, he could likely say there were actual damages and physical or emotional harm caused due to a direct and intentional lie,  can be dealt with legally.

 

One can sue a tabloid for reporting you are pregnant when you are not, or that you impregnated someone you did not.... I am sure he could sue for her lying about being pregnant. The problem would be proof of no actual pregnancy and deception. You have offered that proof by posting it here.

 

If she solicits any support or accepts any, gift or service, it is fraud.

 

If she does so to take advantage of him, it is fraud. Look into "fraud by deception"

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lastpointe wrote: Instead you

lastpointe wrote:

Instead you are suddenly acting like a teenager, meeting new friends on face book who both sound liek dubious characters ( the other  is a gypsy fortune teller of some sort)

 

I am not acting like a teenager.  I am acting like a wild and free single person and it is about time.  I had doubts about God's existence ever since my Dad died so that is not new.

 

My new friend is a psychic not a gypsy fortune teller.

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Friends should bring out the

Friends should bring out the best in each other not the worst. This is sick.

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I completely agree with

I completely agree with Waterfall.

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Serena,   You are obvoiusly

Serena,

 

You are obvoiusly deeply disturbed by something or things that have happened to you and have absolutely nothing to do directly with your friend's situation. You seem angry at all men and at the world in general. You need HELP.

 

You would do well to read and believe what StevieG wrote.

 

And I agree with Waterfall, this whole deception the two of you are planning is totally sick and sickening.  I hope the fellow sees right through the both of you.

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deleted as I left serena's

deleted as I left serena's thread

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I kinda miss Serena ... I

I kinda miss Serena ... I guess she's busy on Facebook now ...

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Crazyheart even though I am

Crazyheart even though I am gone I still don't want you in my threads.

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My friend told her ex that

My friend told her ex that she had an abortion today.  The fake pregnancy is over and she scared him good.  She wrecked his relationship with his girlfriend.  He is alone now too.

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StevieG wrote: You and your

StevieG wrote:

You and your 'friend' likely should not have watched Labor Pains with Lindsay Lohan.

 

We never watched that.

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He won't be alone for long. 

He won't be alone for long.  Guys like that probably have more than one on the side.

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tis true

tis true

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