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4 am Thought

For the last several days now a sentence has been buzzing around me --

As always, when I run into something from someone who has more IQ points than I do nurons --

It takes time for something to sink in...

This wonderful sentence/ strange advice ...

I'd like your take on it:

Live your life as if you will die tomorrow, learn as if you will live forever.

 

Profound? Simplisticic? Foolish? Wise?

Am I boring you?

 

 

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Yes

Yes .....yes...yes...yes...

..... and no....

Often it seems that we just love to take a nice little gem like this and see is we can stretch it all out of shape and context.

I love little summations like this but I also realize they have to be handled carefully.

Right now I am going through a personal time where the inflections and intents of words are a very important factor in how things will turn out.     I have noticed many many posts on various threads where the words just don't come across as intended.

I do appreciate and use summations as a guide and reminder and hopefully a few more useful paths between neurons will be created and stimulated as well.

Hugs

Rita

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Happy Genius wrote:   Live

Happy Genius wrote:

 

Live your life as if you will die tomorrow, learn as if you will live forever.

 

Profound? Simplisticic? Foolish? Wise?

 

 

 

All four, I would say. Wisdom always appears profound, simplistic, and foolish.

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Joyful Brainiac,   it reminds

Joyful Brainiac,

 

it reminds me of THIS.

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It goes up there with  "Hope

It goes up there with  "Hope for the best; Plan for the worst".

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And "Always cut the cards"

And "Always cut the cards"

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The only problem with the

The only problem with the logic of that statement is that it can be interpreted as "make sure to burn your candle at both ends at all times "  _ I guess this is where the foolish comes in.

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To learn as if you will live

To learn as if you will live forever is great. To live as if I'm going to die tomorrow could lead to poor stewardship - why care for anything if I'm going to be gone tomorrow anyway and could also lead to complete self-centredness, since I'm only going to be concerned with how much I can get out of the next day for myself. "Eat, drink and be merry, for tomorrow you die."

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Happy Genius wrote: Live your

Happy Genius wrote:

Live your life as if you will die tomorrow, learn as if you will live forever.

 

 

For me, HG, I like that. Because we don't know when our time will be up. And because I believe everlasting life is possible through Christ.

 

Now, here's my 4am thought...

 

It's 4 o'clock in the morning! Go back to bed already! You're waking up all the neighbours with your vuvuzela!

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I think the first part of the

I think the first part of the thought can be summed up in a famous ad slogan, Just do it.

Second part reminds us we are always students.  Always learners, always disciples.

 

Generally, if I'm concious at 4 a.m. my thought process runs along the lines of:  That last cup of coffee may have been a bad idea.

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It's four in the morning, the

It's four in the morning, the end of December,

I'm writing this letter, to see if you're better,

New York is cold, but I like where I'm living,

The music from Clinton Street, all through the evening.

 

And Jane, came, down with a lock of your hair,

She said, that you gave it to her,

The night that you meant to go clear.

 

Did you ever go clear?

 

-Leonard Cohen

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I held a moment in my hand,

I held a moment in my hand,

brilliant as a star,

fragile as a flower,

a tiny sliver of one hour.

I dripped it carelessly,

Ah! I didn't know,

I held opportunity.

     Hazel Lee

 

Waiting for the fish to bite or waiting for wind to fly a kite.

Or waiting around for Friday night or waiting perhaps for their Uncle Jake or a pot to boil or a better break or a string of pearls or a pair of pants or a wig with curls or another chance.

Everyone is just waiting.

     Dr. Seuss

 

Carpe Diem!

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If I were going to die

If I were going to die tomorrow, I wouldn't bother going in to work today.  I wouldn't pay my bills, I wouldn't worry about taking medication or doing things to stay healthy, etc.  If I were going to live forever, I'd have forever to learn, so I wouldn't have to bother learning anything today if I didn't feel like it. 

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Happy Genius wrote: Live your

Happy Genius wrote:

Live your life as if you will die tomorrow....

Profound? Simplisticic? Foolish? Wise?

 

... and bury your kids' future in the garbage of materialistic overindulgence.

 

foolish,  VERY foolish.

 

LL&P

Spock

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The quote is from Mohandas

The quote is from

Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi

 

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Happy Genius wrote: The quote

Happy Genius wrote:

The quote is from

Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi

 

Not sure what point you're making with the emphasis - are you suggesting that it's unbelievable that any of us would disagree with Ghandi?

So, to be clear, the authorship of the quote makes no difference to me - I believe that Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi was right about the second part but I also believe that Mohandas Karanchand Gandhi was (wait for it) WRONG about the first part.

 

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Rev. Steven Davis

Rev. Steven Davis wrote:

Happy Genius wrote:

The quote is from

Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi

 

Not sure what point you're making with the emphasis -

No point at all and as for emphasis - not my intent...I clipped it from Google to make sure I had the spelling correct.

Rev. Steven Davis wrote:

are you suggesting that it's unbelievable that any of us would disagree with Ghandi?

Not at all! No hidden agenda here...I just found the idea interesting...

Rev. Steven Davis wrote:

So, to be clear, the authorship of the quote makes no difference to me - I believe that Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi was right about the second part but I also believe that Mohandas Karanchand Gandhi was (wait for it) WRONG about the first part.

 

Probably more applicable to him than most others.,.a way to not worry about the future (which came as you know to end quite suddenly.)

I guess I thought it interesting 'cause it fits well with me...

(and the older I get, the more it fits.)

Cheerrs!

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RevDavis, while I understand

RevDavis, while I understand that some may take the advice to live one's life as if one is going to die tomorrow as permission to behave like a selfish boor, there is a flip side to the advice that religions in particular would emphasize.

 

The idea is, that if one was to meet their maker tomorrow would one be comfortable with the encounter?  Have we lived up to our creator's expectations and our own potentials?

 

In the Christian faith that would include treating all that the Creator has created with love and good stewardship.

 

Personally I do not believe one can fulfill that simple expectation by being a selfish boor.

 

 

LB - knowing that the Calvinists amongst us will beg to differ


When one tugs at a single thing in nature, he finds it attached to the rest of the world.

    John Muir (1838-1914)

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LB, you're quite correct that

LB, you're quite correct that that would be one way of understanding the advice. However, my sense of human nature (here's my little pocket of Calvinism coming out ) suggests that most would take such knowledge as license. That being the case, I still consider it to be bad advice, and I would have some doubts about the sincerity of those who actually used the knowledge to try to get closer to God or more spiritual. For example, I've heard anecdotal evidence that suggests that for a few weeks after 9/11 there was a spike in church attendance (there was in my community) - because people expected more, they were frightened, they were looking for answers. Within a couple of months that "spike" had largely disappeared - because nothing more happened (well, no more terrorist attacks) and everyone figured they could get on with enjoying life. There was no depth to that sudden commitment - or maybe better to say that it was a mile wide and an inch thick. People were sincerely looking for answers because they felt under threat but once the threat disappeared they stopped looking for answers.

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...when nature calls thee to

...when nature calls thee to be gone,

What acceptable audit canst thou leave?

 

-William Shakespeare

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Rev. Steven Davis wrote: I

Rev. Steven Davis wrote:

I would have some doubts about the sincerity of those who actually used the knowledge to try to get closer to God or more spiritual. For example, I've heard anecdotal evidence that suggests that for a few weeks after 9/11 there was a spike in church attendance (there was in my community) - because people expected more, they were frightened, they were looking for answers. Within a couple of months that "spike" had largely disappeared - because nothing more happened (well, no more terrorist attacks) and everyone figured they could get on with enjoying life. There was no depth to that sudden commitment - or maybe better to say that it was a mile wide and an inch thick. People were sincerely looking for answers because they felt under threat but once the threat disappeared they stopped looking for answers.

Perhaps this 9/11 example is the very antithesis of "trying to get closer ot God or more spiritual".

This is about fear, and God is about love.

Since my husband's untimely death,  developing my spirituality has become central to my existence.

So far this pilgrim has learnt that life is a wondrous gift. When I look back on the (sometimes unlikely  couplings that it took going back generations) I marvel that I was even born at all.

Not only that, we have all been endowed with unique qualities and gifts.

This much I know. I feel a sense of gratitude and love to God for giving me the gift of life.

Now that part of Jesus's message I find easy to accommodate.

 

The second part's more difficult.  To love my neighbour  and to look for God's presence in everyone I meet.

At the moment some folks are easier to love than others - so I guess more is required here!

 

Finally, Jesus wanted us to have an abundant life. He didn't want us to live out fear and just exist - He wanted us to love and live.

 

I'm determined to give it a bloody good go! 

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Pilgrims Progress

Pilgrims Progress wrote:

Finally, Jesus wanted us to have an abundant life. He didn't want us to live out fear and just exist - He wanted us to love and live.

 

I'm determined to give it a bloody good go! 

 

Amen Sister!

 

I believe we - that is the global we - ultimately regret not doing the right thing for ouselves, our loved ones and others.  Each of us knows our potential and whether we are living up to it.  We know when our actions hurt another whether we openly acknowledge that or not.

 

If I view my life as if it might be gone tomorrow, then I strive to do all the best I can today.

 

 

LB - and today my best will be laundry and gardening


If only. Those must be the two saddest words in the world.

     Mercedes Lackey

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Happy Genius wrote: Live your

Happy Genius wrote:

Live your life as if you will die tomorrow, learn as if you will live forever.

 

I like the quote Happy, it says to me that we should live for today but at the same we should never waste a day.

 

"Wherever you are, there will you be."

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I've got that quote up on my

I've got that quote up on my classroom wall, along with some others.  I like it because you DO have to think about it.    

 

I'm not as cynical as some;  I believe that most people, given a day to live, would choose to reach out to those they love,  seek forgiveness and reconciliation with others, and embrace the simple of joy of being to the fullest.  And eat lots and lots of chocolate.

 

And I'm not at all certain that people did stop looking for answers after the terror of 911 faded.  I think they just stopped looking for them in church.

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Hi Red Baron!   redbaron338

Hi Red Baron!

 

redbaron338 wrote:

I think the first part of the thought can be summed up in a famous ad slogan, Just do it.

Second part reminds us we are always students.  Always learners, always disciples.

Couldn't agree more...

 

redbaron338 wrote:

 

 

 

Generally, if I'm concious at 4 a.m. my thought process runs along the lines of:  That last cup of coffee may have been a bad idea.

Well it's now...uh...ten to 5 am...

I'm a night owl (and don't give a hoot)

I had an early morning job for years...dreamed of the day when I could 'sleep in'...

...and those SIX cups of coffee help me write about a lot of bad ideas...

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I am SO retired

I never dreamed that being old could be so enjoyble: Reading (I'm 800 books behind) Painting (badly)...play piano (even worse)....

What a life! And it's Vancouver! and Summer!

Cheers!

 

 

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Diana wrote: I've got that

Diana wrote:

I've got that quote up on my classroom wall, along with some others.  I like it because you DO have to think about it.    

 

I'm not as cynical as some;  I believe that most people, given a day to live, would choose to reach out to those they love,  seek forgiveness and reconciliation with others, and embrace the simple of joy of being to the fullest.  And eat lots and lots of chocolate.

 

I agree whole-heartedly...including  the chocolate!.

 

Diana wrote:

 

And I'm not at all certain that people did stop looking for answers after the terror of 911 faded.  I think they just stopped looking for them in church.

Probably so.

Nice reading yer positiveness!

 

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Neo wrote: Happy Genius

Neo wrote:

Happy Genius wrote:

Live your life as if you will die tomorrow, learn as if you will live forever.

 

I like the quote Happy, it says to me that we should live for today but at the same we should never waste a day.

 

"Wherever you are, there will you be."

 

Perzactly!  Whereever you go, there you are....

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Good morning, Happy

Good morning, Happy Genius!

 

The sun is finally shining, even in Vancouver, eh?

 

What, you are only 800 books behind? I am thousands of books behind!

 

That's why I need to live forever: to catch up on my learning.

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Arminius wrote: Good morning,

Arminius wrote:

Good morning, Happy Genius!

 

Morning. Ah yes. There IS such a thing as morning.

 

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What, you are only 800 books behind? I am thousands of books behind!

 

That's why I need to live forever: to catch up on my learning.

 

Yep.  The best 'reason' for eternality. (I'm in favour)

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  Arminius wrote: Good

 

Arminius wrote:

Good morning, Happy Genius!

 

Morning. Ah yes. There IS such a thing as morning.

 

Arminius wrote:

 

The sun is finally shining, even in Vancouver, eh?

 

 

 

Yes! Beutiful! reminds me..."and flowers is the earth's laughter"...

 

Arminius wrote:

 

What, you are only 800 books behind? I am thousands of books behind!

 

That's why I need to live forever: to catch up on my learning.

 

Yep.  The best 'reason' for eternality. (I'm in favour)

 

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Happy Genius

Happy Genius wrote:

 

Arminius wrote:

Good morning, Happy Genius!

 

Morning. Ah yes. There IS such a thing as morning.

 

Arminius wrote:

 

The sun is finally shining, even in Vancouver, eh?

 

 

 

Yes! Beutiful! reminds me..."and flowers are the earth's laughter"...

 

Arminius wrote:

 

What, you are only 800 books behind? I am thousands of books behind!

 

That's why I need to live forever: to catch up on my learning.

 

Yep.  The best 'reason' for eternality. (I'm in favour)

 

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Good things come in threes,

Good things come in threes, eh?

 

(I am a firm believer in the Holy Trinity :-)

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Arminius wrote: Good things

Arminius wrote:

Good things come in threes, eh?

 

(I am a firm believer in the Holy Trinity :-)

 

one of these days I'm going to learn how to work this thing.

(AND learn how to paint and play...)

Now is just 799 books to go...

 

 

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