WaterBuoy
Ego ...
Posted on: 02/22/2012 10:24
How many people think that this is an evil phenomena?
Could it be a mixed blessing like hating/loving the father and mother?
Self-awareness doesn't seem that bad if we could peer into the dark Mire that reveals thy self ... a very misundertood portion of social order being that antisocialism is the preferred state. Now is that as cary are drifting out on the Moor ... that's like a green pool ah ... where new creatures are fabricated ... like in How Green Was My Valley ... some Eire intelligence erupts ... but don't tell ... new concepts are not well received ...
The earth remains flayed out as a story ... but some see around the bends ... as german "c's" gammos? Open ended little quirks ... causing reflections eccos and all sorts of alien things ... th'aughts. Taos and Th'Oz!
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WaterBuoy
Can one respect thys ole
Posted on: 02/22/2012 10:27
Can one respect thys ole thing rejected by Roman Theology ... as common thought?
Then why do authorities lament the lack of information from the silent majority; do they not know anything? Those at the top, I mean ...
Mendalla
Ego is necessary. Someone who
Posted on: 02/22/2012 11:50
Ego is necessary. Someone who completely neglects and disrespects themselves is often quite useless to others as well.
Ego is also a barrier if it becomes the focus of our lives and blinds us to the needs others and to the fact that we are not independent beings but rather part of something bigger than ourselves (community, world, universe, etc.). This is where theologies like unmerited Grace are helpful (provided one does not overdo them). They encourage a certain amount of humility and recognition of dependence.
Mendalla
rishi
WaterBuoy wrote: Can one
Posted on: 02/22/2012 12:27
Can one respect thys ole thing rejected by Roman Theology ... as common thought?
Then why do authorities lament the lack of information from the silent majority; do they not know anything? Those at the top, I mean ...
Have we reached a stage of devolution where the sense of those 'at the top' is more common and egocentric than those at the bottom? I think with few exceptions we have.
Arminius
To my thinking, the ego is a
Posted on: 02/22/2012 13:22
To my thinking, the ego is a concept: the concept that we are separate, individual selves. This concept is based on the illusion of separateness, which is our worst illusion, but it is also based on the instinct of self preservation, which is a vital human instinct that has evolved out of necessity.
We need to preserve our individual selves, this is vital, necessary, healthy, and good. What is unhealthy about the ego is the illusion that we are separate individual selves, that being the individual is all there is to our existence, and the egocentricity that results from this kind of thinking. In egocentricity, our entire world is built around and revolves around the separate individual we think we are.
In other words, what is bad about the ego is the illusion of separateness and the resulting egocentricity. Egocentricity is best overcome by experiencing and realizing that everything and everyone is inseparably connected with everything and everyone else, that we as individuals are inseparable parts of greater, unified whole.
rishi
WaterBuoy wrote: How many
Posted on: 02/22/2012 13:12
How many people think that this is an evil phenomena?
Could it be a mixed blessing like hating/loving the father and mother?
That's a good analogy. When loving father and mother actually means a mindless, inordinate attachment, and hating them actually means mindfully not deifying them.... it's a really great analogy. The evil, then, is not the parents / ego in themselves but in the quality of our relationship with it. And for their to be relatedness at all there has to be consciousness of separateness.
Getting back to your other point... Perhaps just as the common sense experience of "loving father and mother" is, in effect, having a mindless attachment to them, so also with the common sense experience of the ego. We cannot see it, because we are identified with it.
WaterBuoy
Interesting views ... I
Posted on: 02/22/2012 13:11
Interesting views ...
I have found it peculiar that one definition of Ego relates to self examination, where another relates to self image (perhaps without the self-criticism eh, Rishi) and still another realtes to self-centeredness that is more properly Egocentrism.
When you ponder these items ... would some delu-Zional images appear? God we wouldn't wish to go there would we into the dark distant definitions of word signs? That would make word ... almost a god that would required study ... to shape up the intangible mind?
O' I forgot ... that's a displaced idiom ... mind ... like noodle ... sticking to the Wahl? We wouldn't wish to think about our RIFTS would we ... like cracks in de Jar'ed? Did you know how many times that Jared is mentionned in the "book"?
It creates an image almost like soul ... that has to be questionned as much larger than it appears ... much of IT unknown? Could this be the initiation of the Cos Moe Logical trix stir ... inna word ... that'd be athe ought ... near nothing ... following ... or leading like blip of a Bull ...
WaterBuoy
Mindless disconnect ... like
Posted on: 02/22/2012 13:54
Mindless disconnect ... like parental bloodshed that' would be like blood siblings right ... but some authorities don't like low level connections ...
Can we think as blood, plasma-like expereince that some would say raise giggles in the dark ... and the Shadow knows being a light absorbant media like the pupil in the greater eye?
Omi ga'd I love alien metaphors ... like cold breaths from old phoqah in the isles ... ancient pas Zions. Wouldn't that just drive some of the instituted off their edge ...
Then there is the behaviour of DNA ... a spiritual connection being they appear to be underlying ... like subversively directive towards where you're goan with this! Would come up as a nuclear aÐ eM-ist to put a twist to the Ayres escaping my teeth as word ... for those that can hear phonetics ... rise of the burnt byrd ... a turkey when it comes to western traditions ... some places they put Don Quies and Goats in the desert ... causes some run on the abstract ... what they call the imaginary ... intangible side of the ecco logical ... ineffable altho right within grasp ... innate? O' the fluidity of dark mire words ... to make the subversive giggle as an underlying 4'C ...
Then with paws ... one could ask what is ID? Loon attic emote ... space beyond de ears where it's prime for invert absorption ...
Hows the brae'in reciprocate on signals in the hind brae'in ... without Egos, doves or raptures ... spaces to allow thoughts?
WaterBuoy
You know we've been all
Posted on: 02/22/2012 14:00
You know we've been all through this before and everytime we do it is like recycle in which we get something out of non-verge in olive Oielle ...
The words are changed to protect the instituted innocents ... they never did anything to be guity of ... leaving awesome rheum for learning as a prodigal Canan ...!
Big Bore versus the Çow ... lot of uprooting to do yet before we find the end to the Myra ...
Sum, or total intellect appears ellusive ... the wah chi goes ... with Eire ... one of the quarter Masters Mind!
Arminius
One of my best friends is
Posted on: 02/22/2012 14:04
One of my best friends is said to have a strong ego, but he uses the strength of his ego to serve others. And he does this without neglecting his ego. His egotistic egolessness gives him profound ego-satisfaction.
SG
It depends on what we mean by
Posted on: 02/22/2012 14:23
It depends on what we mean by ego and then to what degree. Are we talking ego in general or in psychoanalysis' terms?
IMO One needs a place between a low self-esteem and an over-inflated self-esteem. One needs a sense of self, but I would say a true sense, not a false sense and a healthy sense...
For me, I think we can set up false dichotomies, and engage in too much black-and-white thinking.
WaterBuoy
Needing grey manna in the
Posted on: 02/22/2012 14:51
Needing grey manna in the balance ... a well-bred sole?
Such would be a psychoanalysts dream ... something you could write an unending book upon ... or would that be an infinite delite ... except for those that hate the word?
Some despise traversing in the dark ... as ort of transcendant operation ... between those light in the head and those laid out by the bo'que ... Shadow of the dark floe ring?
SG
None of us are perfect... I
Posted on: 02/22/2012 15:14
None of us are perfect... I quit trying to acheive that.
I am a beautifully created human being with human frailty and human qualities. I can do the best I can with what I have.
I can only hope to be, work to be, more self-aware than in self-denial... understand more than I blame...be friendly more than I am unfriendly... forgive more than I resent... be more humble than power seeking... more spiritual than material... live in the now more than the past or the future...
Do I always succeed? Hell no! Do I most the time? Does anyone? Some days I do and other days I don't. Soem times I am closer and some times I am not close at all...
In the end, I am human and that means with an ego. So, no I do not think ego is evil any more than ego is always good.
WaterBuoy
SG, Yah just gotta loe vite
Posted on: 02/23/2012 09:03
SG,
Yah just gotta loe vite ...
Arminius
My abovementioned best friend
Posted on: 02/23/2012 14:13
My abovementioned best friend with the strong ego is in no way perfect. He loved teaching and coaching so much that he devoted most of his life to it and neglected his family. Now, in his old age, he regrets this, and says he should have spent more time with his family, and would, if he could live his life over again.
20/20 hindsight, eh?
ninjafaery
Arminius wrote: To my
Posted on: 02/24/2012 18:07
To my thinking, the ego is a concept: the concept that we are separate, individual selves. This concept is based on the illusion of separateness, which is our worst illusion, but it is also based on the instinct of self preservation, which is a vital human instinct that has evolved out of necessity.
We need to preserve our individual selves, this is vital, necessary, healthy, and good. What is unhealthy about the ego is the illusion that we are separate individual selves, that being the individual is all there is to our existence, and the egocentricity that results from this kind of thinking. In egocentricity, our entire world is built around and revolves around the separate individual we think we are.
In other words, what is bad about the ego is the illusion of separateness and the resulting egocentricity. Egocentricity is best overcome by experiencing and realizing that everything and everyone is inseparably connected with everything and everyone else, that we as individuals are inseparable parts of greater, unified whole.
That's how I see it too. It's not necessarily "bad" -- we need it to function in the space/time continuum, possibly. But being aware once in awhile that it's an illusion is a good practice IMO.
WaterBuoy
Perhaps just preparation for
Posted on: 02/25/2012 09:43
Perhaps just preparation for a time when we have to operate together to exist ... sheer 'elle for some ... heaven to others of the co-operative mote ...
Kimmio
WaterBuoy wrote: Perhaps
Posted on: 02/25/2012 19:42
Perhaps just preparation for a time when we have to operate together to exist ... sheer 'elle for some ... heaven to others of the co-operative mote ...
We do operate together to exist, don't we? To varying degrees, we have to....but it's all interconnected.