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Famous Last Words of atheists

David Hume, the Atheist, He cried: "I am in flames!" His desperation was a horrible scene.

Voltaire, the famous skeptic, Voltaire died a terrible death. His nurse said: "For all the money in Europe I wouldn't want to see another unbeliever die! All night long he cried for forgiveness."
Heinrich Heine, the great Skeptic,, When you are on your deathbed, you become more sensitive and you would like to make peace with God and the world"¦ Poems, that only contained halfway reproaches against God, I delivered over to the flames in a fearful zeal. It is better, that the verses burn than the verse maker"¦ I returned to God as a prodigal son, after I fed the swine with the Hegelians for a long time"¦ In the theology I have to accuse myself of retreating, because I returned to a 'personal God'."
As he died: "God will forgive me. It's his job."

Sir Thomas Scott,
Scott, once president of the English Lower House said: "Up until this time, I thought that there was no God neither Hell. Now I know and feel that there are both, and I am delivered to perdition by the righteous judgment of the Almighty."

Stalin: Father died terribly and difficult. God gives the righteous an easy death."

A Chinese Communist, who delivered many Christians to their execution, came to a pastor and said: "I've seen many of you die. The Christians die differently. What is their secret?"

Alexander the Great, "There are no more other worlds to conquer!"

Henry the Eighth ,,"So, now all is gone"”Empire, Body and Soul!"

Roman Emperor Augustus: "Did I play my role well? If so, then applause, because the comedy is finished!"

WHAT WILL YOU SAY?
WHAT DO YOU SAY NOW?
WHAT IS YOUR PERSPECTIVE ON LIFE?
WILL YOU GO UP IN YOUR DEATH WHERE LOVE IS FOREVER?

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what??

bb, are you suggesting that these people you mentioned here are hellbound or something??

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Henry VIII was a very devote Roman Catholic. It was a Pope who declare Henry to be "Defender of the Faith" (a title still used by our monarch) for a piece of theological writing. After his break with Rome, he was still a devote Catholic. I don't think he qualifies as an atheist. A question if a couple others you mention above are atheists.

I recently observed a very Godly woman die a slow death. Last fall, I had the privilege of visiting her twice in her last weeks, as she slowly starved to death by stomach cancer. She approached death with the same acceptance, faith, grace and serenity as she approached all the things she did when she was alive. It was a gift from God to see her example of how a Christian can die in grace.

Unfortunately, I wonder how many Christians have the same turn as Voltaire -- making a death bed flip flop? Would it be better to be an atheist making a last minute plea to God for mercy, or a devote Christian wallowing in last minute doubts about the truth of God? Chilling thought! I hope I can follow the example of my friend who is now in heaven.

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Give me a few hours and I'll get you some horrible deaths of christians from the web.

Jesus was crucified...a horrible death...was he an atheist?

You know this post is actually quite insulting to the intelligence.

Actually.,....lets just start with this...

"Around 34 A.D., one year after the crucifixion of Jesus, Stephen was thrown out of Jerusalem and stoned to death. Approximately 2,000 Christians suffered martyrdom in Jerusalem during this period. About 10 years later, James, the son of Zebedee and the elder brother of John, was killed when Herod Agrippa arrived as governor of Judea. Agrippa detested the Christian sect of Jews, and many early disciples were martyred under his rule, including Timon and Parmenas. Around 54 A.D., Philip, a disciple from Bethsaida, in Galilee, suffered martyrdom at Heliopolis, in Phrygia. He was scourged, thrown into prison, and afterwards crucified. About six years later, Matthew, the tax-collector from Nazareth who wrote his gospel in Hebrew, was preaching in Ethiopia when he suffered martyrdom by the sword. James, the brother of Jesus, administered the early church in Jerusalem and was the author of an Epistle by his name. At age 94, he was beat and stoned, and finally had his brains bashed out with a fuller's club. Matthias was the apostle who filled the vacant place of Judas. He was stoned at Jerusalem and then beheaded. Andrew was the brother of Peter who preached the gospel throughout Asia. On his arrival at Edessa, he was arrested and crucified on a cross, the two ends of which were fixed transversely in the ground (this is where we get the term, St. Andrew's Cross). Mark was converted to Christianity by Peter, and then transcribed Peter's account of Jesus in his Gospel. Mark was dragged to pieces by the people of Alexandria in front of Serapis, their pagan idol. It appears Peter was condemned to death and crucified at Rome. Jerome holds that Peter was crucified upside down, at his own request, because he said he was unworthy to be crucified in the same manner as his Lord. Paul suffered in the first persecution under Nero. Paul's faith was so dramatic in the face of martyrdom, that the authorities removed him to a private place for execution by the sword."

They must have all been a bunch of heathens right?

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Big A will die typically. As he passes through the dark door to the great unknown, he will look around and say, "Oh ****, there are no "UP" stairs! And the down stairs are lit by an unearthly glow! But I don't believe in this crap. Didn't you hear me! I DON"T BELIEVE YOU ARE REALLY THERE! God, it's hopt in here!"

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Hey, blackbelt! Don't you know that if you starta thread about God, eternal life, etc. Big A (Atheisto) will smell it and come running to mock the good folk. I invite you to mock him as well. He thinks it's juvenile, but it does p**s him off!

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This post is so ridiculous, and is so often repeated even though it's been completely debunked a gazillion times, that I won't waste my time giving the answer. Rather I'll just post a link to an article which deals with it effectively.

http://atheism.about.com/library/FAQs/ath/blathm_nat_deathbed.htm

It does bring up an interesting point though, in the area of intellectual honesty. When an honest person has an opinion and is shown conclusively to be in error, he discards that opinion, and perhaps even takes steps to make sure others who were influenced by his use of it are set straight.

Apologists and Creationists, on the other hand, have a whole bag of anecdotes, and fallacies that they pull out at whim. Cute little sound bites that are outright fabrications or half truths that have been shown false a thousand times before and should have rightfully been laid to rest long ago. Rather when the fallacy is debunked, they simply put it back in their bag and wait until they have a fresh audience to trot out the crap again.

The tragedy is they often suck otherwise honest people into their web and those people end up being laughed at when they try using the same sound bites. This probably causes more people to leave Christianity than any other thing, IMHO.

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Guys, don't feed the

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BWAWHAHAHAAA!!

man, i love that picture, lovejoy!!!

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This is me not feeding.

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Amen RevMatt

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Who would eat a fish with legs, anyway?

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Hey LJ, who gave you my picture? Geeez"¦!

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Jeffery; There have been fossils found on Ellesmere Island in 2004 of a fish of the species Tiktaalik roseae that had front legs that had a shoulder, elbow and wrist.. From the drawing made based upon the fossils it appears that the fish would be large enough to be edible. The finding of this fish was quite important as it is "a link between fishes and land vertebrates that might in time become as much of an evolutionary icon as the proto-bird Archaeopteryx."

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2006/04/06/MNGCGI4CA...

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Well, I'd just be worried that the legged fish would bare more similarity to something from Springfield (ie. Blinky) than the prehistoric being from Ellesmere Island.

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i thought it was 'winky' the three eyed nuclear fish from springfield???

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Who wouldn't want one animal that could provide sushi and frog legs all at once?

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definetly not me... sign me up for that one, and pass the wasabi!!!

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i heard that legged fish taste like chicken. is this true?

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Everything tastes like chicken..... or is it that Chicken tastes like everything?

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I have to say, dog tastes more like duck or goose than chicken.

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hope i don't taste like chicken...

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We need to have a word with some chickens to find out about their taste buds and sinus structure before we can draw parallels, people...

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and more,,

Robert Ingersoll: "O God, if there be a God, save my soul, if I have a soul!"

Thomas Payne: "Stay with me, for God's sake; I cannot bear to be left alone ... O Lord, help me! O God, what have I done to suffer so much? What will become of me hereafter?"

Caesar Borgia: "While I lived, I provided for everything but death; now I must die, and am unprepared to die."

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What is the source for these quotes? I researched the Thomas Paine quote and only found it in one place, on bibleweb.com, which I would not consider to be authoritative or objective. Bibelweb.com credits The Trenton Bulletin which is also not authoritative or objective.

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I personally like the deathbed story of Oscar Wilde much better. Oscar, always a critic, is alleged to have commented on how ghastly the wallpaper was in the room in which he died.

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Atheisto,

Blackbelt wasn't talking about the way they died but the agony in their last cries for the Lord.

Stephen when stoned looked up and saw heaven waiting for him.

Jesus was the same. His forsaken statement was just as the sin came upon him and he was separated from God for that moment until the sin was sent to the grave with him. He arose without it and left it buried beneath the cross.

Praise the Lord!!

Erin

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when i'm surprised, i say, "oh god!" i think lots of people do no matter what their beliefs are.

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wonderin

amen brother

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"I have a long journey to take, and must bid the company farewell."
Walter Raleigh (1554-1618), English explorer

"If this is dying, I don't think much of it."
Lytton Strachey (1880-1932), British writer

"Dear me, I believe I am becoming a god. An emperor ought at least to die on his feet."
Vespasian (9-79 AD), Roman emperor

"Either that wallpaper goes, or I do."
Oscar Wilde (1854-1900), British dramatist. As he lay dying in Paris

"I feel nothing, apart from a certain difficulty in continuing to exist."
Bernard de Fontenelle (1657-1757), French philosopher.

"Why are you weeping? Did you imagine that I was immortal?"
Louis XIV (1638-1715), Well known French king, as his servants cried for him.

"Here am I, dying of a hundred good symptoms."
Alexander Pope (1688-1744), British poet

"Why, I did not know we had quarreled."
Henry David Thoreau, when asked by his aunt if he had made his peace with God.

We are all full of weakness and errors; let us mutually pardon each other our follies it is the first law of nature.
Voltaire

"Turn up the lights, I don't want to go home in the dark."
O. Henry (William Sidney Porter 1862-1910), US story writer

"On the contrary!"
Henrik Ibsen (1828-1906), Norwegian dramatist on a suggestion he was better,

"Even in the valley of the shadow of death, two and two do not make six."
Leo Tolstoy (1828-1910), Russian author, comment on the the Russian Orthodox Church as he lay dying

"I'm so bored with it all."
Winston Churchill

"Too late for fruit, too soon for flowers."
Walter De La Mare (1873-1956), Response from the British poet when asked if he would like some fruit or flowers

"This is no time to make new enemies." - Voltaire, when asked on his deathbed to forswear Satan

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First of all blackbelt I think that Wonderin is a sister not a brother.

Folks who are not Atheist do not understand the pressure that non-believers often feel in a Society that often holds to the false view that you cannot be moral or good without a god. I would suspect that some have converted to religion in their dying days as their faculties diminish and they feel the weight of the pressure of the Society weighing upon them.

I jokingly mentioned Oscar Wilde earlier but let us consider his final years. Good old Oscar while imprisoned wrote an apology of sorts titled "De Profundis"

He had been imprisoned for Gross Indecency for being gay in a time that did not tolerate the "Love that dare not speak its name"

Here is quote from that work
" Society, as we have constituted it, will have no place for me, has none to offer; but Nature, whose sweet rains fall on unjust and just alike, will have clefts in the rocks where I may hide, and secret valleys in whose silence I may weep undisturbed. She will hang the night with stars so that I may walk abroad in the darkness without stumbling, and send the wind over my footprints so that none may track me to my hurt: she will cleanse me in great waters, and with bitter herbs make me whole."

Good old Oscar would not have to hide amongst the rocks in 2007 but he did then.

Wilde also was without religion for many years but came back to Catholicism have heartedly near his death. Again would he need to in our times.

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so what, wonderin and bb??

are you simply saying that these guys decided to become christian on their deathbeds?? if so, SO WHAT??

really, i'm totally failing to see what it is you're trying to get across here...

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sighs

your reading there last words but your failing to understand what is going on in there hearts juring there last moments on earth before shutting there eyes forever.

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so.... ?????

again, i don't understand what you are trying to say here.

i guess i'm just dense this evening.

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Sighs

Blackbelt is trying to tell us that all of those silly atheists (brilliant philosophers included) were not truly happy until they accepted his God on their deathbed. In pointing this out he is attempting to illustrate how misguided folks like me are while illustrating in the best "tisk tisk" manner how clever he is.

"Silly Rabbit, tricks are for kids!"

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Hi All,

With respect to deathbed conversions St. Augustine had this to say:

"Scripture records only one deathbed conversion so that we should not lose hope but, only one so that we should not presume."

Apart from goading the atheists in the room I'm not quite sure what the purpose of the alleged last words is supposed to accomplish.

Although, if I was to comment on it I would no doubt point to the fact that if the allegations are true and that in the last moment these individuals had an epiphany it confirms the 'sola gratia' position I champion.

I mean if God would reach out an pluck up individuals who have formally rejected the existence of God salvation/redemption cannot be accomplished by works right? It could only be by the grace of God that these ones were saved/redeemed.

In that case the accounts should not only goad the atheists in the room but everyone who has been arguing for what we as individuals must do to be saved.

So thanks for helping me knock down works righteousness a peg or two.

Grace and peace to you.

John

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blackbelt wrote:
"sighs

your reading there last words but your failing to understand what is going on in there hearts juring there last moments on earth before shutting there eyes forever."

Blackbelt, on the other hand, being especially privy to the actual thoughts that were going through each of these person's minds at the time of their death. Rumour has it that Angels caught those thoughts out of the ether and ferried them to blackbelt in special phials made of sounding brass and tinkling silver.

Faceit blackbelt, you have no idea what those people were thinking, and I suspect at least half of the supposed final statements you offered are no more than the usual fallacies fdreamt up by those who only wished those statements were made.

I measn who hasn't heard aabout Darwin's recanting of his life's work on his deathbed. I've had it quoted to me a hundred times instentorian tones by triumphant fundies striking a victory pose for the cameras. Of course in his case the p[eople who were there kinda win out over the people who weren't there but apparently rcieved their angelograms later.

Or is this another one of those "facts" of yours?

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wonder what people who died before chrisitianity said as they died.

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Dom Crossan once commented that he thought humans were "hard wired" for religion, because of their spiritual nature. I imagine that those who died before Christianity was born gave thanks to their gods for life, and pleaded for mercy in the world to come. It seems that, just as there are few atheists in foxholes, so there were probably few atheists in the ancient world. Atheism, like fungi, breeds in the darkness and isolation.

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Stop feeding the troll!!

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revMatt said,,
{Stop feeding the troll!!}

A trol is one who posts and leaves , as you can see I'm stil here, and a Rev is one who believes and teaches the gosple as it is

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And our RevMatt is a good one, and very deserving of the first three letters of his name!

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There was a tombstone that read:

Here lies an atheist.
All dressed up
and
nowhere to go!

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--- origionally posted by gramps ---

Atheism, like fungi, breeds in the darkness and isolation.
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an interesting opinion there, gramps... but actually, my experience has been completely different.

the athiests that i know are very bright and well informed individuals. in fact, i find that i know more christians whom i would consider 'isolated' ... specifically, i recall going on a cruise a few years ago, and meeting a group from a christian school in the states, and having a grown woman come up to me and say 'wow, you're from canada?? do they have christians up there??'

i was tempted to say 'well, we just murdered our last missionary...' but i bit my tongue.

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hi sighs

you said,

{,the athiests that i know are very bright and well informed individuals.}

I most deffentally agree with you, unfourtunally our brightness and intellengences wont save us, only Christ can do that

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--- origionally posted by blackbelt ---

I most deffentally agree with you, unfourtunally our brightness and intellengences wont save us, only Christ can do that
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indeed.... but surely a person who comes about it after enjoying a lifetime of questioning and experience is just as worthy of salvation as a person who blindly follows the bible from birth because someone told them too, correct??

so what are you trying to say here, blackbelt?? if an athiest is finding spiritual comfort with their beliefs, why is that a problem??? because i see a lot more athiests walking in the footsteps of jesus than some people who call themselves christian, i tell ya.

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hi sighs

you said,,,

{indeed.... but surely a person who comes about it after enjoying a lifetime of questioning and experience is just as worthy of salvation as a person who blindly follows the bible from birth because someone told them too, correct?? }

yep agreed

{so what are you trying to say here, blackbelt?? if an athiest is finding spiritual comfort with their beliefs, why is that a problem??? because i see a lot more athiests walking in the footsteps of jesus than some people who call themselves christian, i tell ya.}

disagree ,

1)athiests dont believe in a spirit world

2) an athiest cannot walk in the light of a spirtuial teacher , Son of God if they dont believe in it, nope no way

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why not??

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"just as there are few atheists in foxholes,"

Another fallacy. There are plenty of atheists in foxholes.

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Witch,

Hi,

You wrote:

There are plenty of atheists in foxholes.

Then where do the foxes go?

Grace and peace to you.

John

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well, it doesn't really say, does it... the sheep are laying with the lions, and the goats are going to hell...

maybe the foxes are still over on the ark??

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