Greatest I am
Is God Guilty of killing instead of curing? Noah would say yes.
Posted on: 03/05/2010 15:24
Is God Guilty of killing instead of curing? Noah would say yes.
Though shall not kill.
Love thy neighbor as yourself.
God did the former and Noah did not do the latter.
As Noah watched all of his people drown, he must have been sickened by the sight of his God killing instead of curing His creations.
We play with the terms and conditions of genocide and as to it’s position of good or evil.
It seems to be evil for men but good for God.
Some justify God’s use of killing instead of curing to the fact, fact to them, that God created us and can damned well do what he likes with us.
Rather a poor use of God’s perfect creative talents but, what the hell.
If you were on a jury and had to decide on guilt or innocence for God and the use of genocide, what would you find, knowing that God had killed many times before and did not use some miracle to cure?
Guilty or not guilty of killing instead of curing?
Please state the main reason for your choice.
Regards
DL
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Rev. Steven Davis
Why this guy insists on
Posted on: 03/05/2010 16:01
Why this guy insists on challenging literalistic interpretations of the Bible on a forum where the vast majority of people don't hold to a literalist view of the Bible is a mystery I'll leave it to God to explain!
airclean33
God can destroy anything he
Posted on: 03/05/2010 16:54
God can destroy anything he wants g-i-a after all He is the one that made it .But He is not the god of death, but Life. He makes of us what ever He wants, for He is the master potter. We are the clay. Imagine g-i-a without God your just a lot of dirt.God has never put up with bad dirt for long, As He will show soon. Noah told his brothers they wouldn't Lisen. Till the Rain came .Do You Here the Rain g-i-a?
joejack
DL is an expert on everything
Posted on: 03/05/2010 17:38
DL is an expert on everything and everyone's motives. He's unencumbered by the fact that he doesn't have a clue what he's talking about, or the more foolish precept of actually having any educational background. Twisting things to your liking is no substitute for academic enquiry and proper research. (pardon my English, it's still unpolished.)
joejack
Greatest I am wrote: If you
Posted on: 03/05/2010 17:57
If you were on a jury and had to decide on guilt or innocence for God and the use of genocide, what would you find, knowing that God had killed many times before and did not use some miracle to cure?
Guilty or not guilty of killing instead of curing?
Please state the main reason for your choice.
Regards
DLtn
Aside from the fact we don't judge God, and aside from the fact your thread is totally moronic, I would find 'Not Guilty'. As requested, I give my main reasons for this choice. Your statements call for speculation about God's motives and Noah's reaction. How do you know what Noah's reaction would be? Did you ask him? Can you put him on the stand? How do you know God's motives? Did you cross examine him? All your half-baked conclusions are based on SPECULATION! Who is your prosecuting attorney? How did you select the jury in a fair manner? Are you going to put God on the stand so he can be cross-examined? Can you PROVE beyond a reasonable doubt that God committed murder? Who do you call for a witness? What DNA evidence do you provide? Do you have a copy of God's DNA? How many times has God allegedly 'killed'? Please state the main reasons for your choice. What proof do you offer that would STAND UP IN A COURT OF LAW? You have none. Like always.
boltupright
Let DL express DL. Bolt
Posted on: 03/05/2010 20:19
Let DL express DL.
Bolt
boltupright
I think DL is just trying to
Posted on: 03/05/2010 20:31
I think DL is just trying to bring to the table how some look at scripture literally, so if there are those out there that do, may come in a say why they believe contrary to what DL expresses.
Open forum,,, right?
Bolt
joejack
DL, you will answer or be
Posted on: 03/05/2010 20:35
DL, you will answer or be held in contempt of court.
joejack
boltupright wrote: I think DL
Posted on: 03/05/2010 20:41
I think DL is just trying to bring to the table how some look at scripture literally, so if there are those out there that do, may come in a say why they believe contrary to what DL expresses.
Open forum,,, right?
Bolt
DL has high, unfulfilled recognition needs evidenced by the fact he posts the same stuff incessantly on about a dozen or so other forums. The trouble is some of them don't tolerate his obsessions as well as Wondercafe. He's like a circus plate spinner who has to come around once and a while to keep the plates spinning. Is DL guilty of hockey instead of curling? Noah would say, "What on earth are hockey and curling?"
boltupright
Well since you have this
Posted on: 03/05/2010 21:04
Well since you have this wonderful ability to read into a man's motive, I'll just leave it at that then.
Bolt
joejack
That's it, DL. You're in
Posted on: 03/06/2010 12:25
That's it, DL. You're in contempt of court! Bailiff, take the prisoner into custody. Noah is also suing for defamation of character and, this time, God is the judge. You in beeg trouble, meester.
boltupright
Whack his PeePee too?
Posted on: 03/06/2010 12:27
Whack his PeePee too?
blackbelt
boltupright wrote: Whack his
Posted on: 03/06/2010 14:13
Whack his PeePee too?
LMAO there Brethern Bolt , hey I bet you cant say that really fast 3 times ...
brethern bolt, brethern bolt, brethern bolt
boltupright
LOL!!!
Posted on: 03/06/2010 14:15
LOL!!!
joejack
boltupright wrote: Whack his
Posted on: 03/06/2010 18:17
Whack his PeePee too?
Don't do that! That's the same general area as his brains.
joejack
It's been over 24 hours since
Posted on: 03/06/2010 18:22
It's been over 24 hours since DL posted here. Maybe he's having troubling juggling his dozen or so other websites he's started. Maybe he's gone on a trip. Maybe he's sleeping.
boltupright
joejack wrote: boltupright
Posted on: 03/06/2010 20:45
Whack his PeePee too?
Don't do that! That's the same general area as his brains.
LOL, it was a question.
You are on a roll brother, your discernment ability is quite impressive to say the least.
Bolt
chansen
Rev. Steven Davis wrote:Why
Posted on: 03/06/2010 21:13
In that case, feel free to challenge the literalist interpretations yourself. Some of the posts above demonstrate that literalist interpretations are alive and well (if stunted) at WC, even if they are otherwise restricted to the corner of the UCC.
joejack
But then, if DL wasn't weird,
Posted on: 03/06/2010 20:54
But then, if DL wasn't weird, obnoxious and totally asinine he'd have no personality at all.
boltupright
What is that brown thing
Posted on: 03/06/2010 20:59
What is that brown thing behind that angel, looks like a bobble head?
Looks like a beam or a tree trunk.
Is that a cartoonie face image of you?
Bolt
joejack
They call it a "Tattoon".
Posted on: 03/06/2010 21:31
They call it a "Tattoon". YOu can make your own online.
blackbelt
joejack wrote: They call it a
Posted on: 03/06/2010 23:11
They call it a "Tattoon". YOu can make your own online.
where, you have a link , i need to make one of me
joejack
blackbelt wrote: joejack
Posted on: 03/07/2010 00:43
They call it a "Tattoon". YOu can make your own online.
where, you have a link , i need to make one of me
Just type "tattoon" in your search engine and it should come up. Go to mytattoons.com.
joejack
Normal 0
Posted on: 03/07/2010 00:41
Normal
0
Are the Toronto Maple Leafs guilty of beating instead of tying the Ottawa Senators? Noah and the ghost of Harold Ballard would say yes.
The Toronto Maple Leafs as victors is problematic.
Was our first Toronto Maple Leaf a leaflet or a bud?
Was the hockey genocide of the Ottawa Senators on Saturday night justified?
Can the Toronto Maple Leafs bring on the end times (or the Stanley Cup, whichever comes first)?
Were the Toronto Maple Leafs insane or traitors for beating the Ottawa Senators?
Man, I can make up crap, too.
Greatest I am
airclean33 wrote: God can
Posted on: 03/09/2010 13:43
God can destroy anything he wants g-i-a after all He is the one that made it .But He is not the god of death, but Life. He makes of us what ever He wants, for He is the master potter. We are the clay. Imagine g-i-a without God your just a lot of dirt.God has never put up with bad dirt for long, As He will show soon. Noah told his brothers they wouldn't Lisen. Till the Rain came .Do You Here the Rain g-i-a?
Deuteronomy 32:4
He is the Rock, his work is perfect: for all his ways are judgment: a God of truth and without iniquity, just and right is he.Matthew 7:18
A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
Now why would you think God would destroy His perfect works?
Regards
DL
Greatest I am
Rev. Steven Davis wrote: Why
Posted on: 03/09/2010 13:45
Why this guy insists on challenging literalistic interpretations of the Bible on a forum where the vast majority of people don't hold to a literalist view of the Bible is a mystery I'll leave it to God to explain!
Thanks for not speaking to the issue.
That really shows the non literal view.
Regards
DL
Greatest I am
joejack “Aside from
Posted on: 03/09/2010 13:48
joejack
“Aside from the fact we don't judge God,”
Either this is a lie or you have not judged God to be good.
Your choice.
Regards
DL
Greatest I am
boltupright wrote: I think DL
Posted on: 03/09/2010 13:50
I think DL is just trying to bring to the table how some look at scripture literally, so if there are those out there that do, may come in a say why they believe contrary to what DL expresses.
Open forum,,, right?
Bolt
Thanks.
Have you noticed the slave mentality.
He made us so he can kill us.
This is not only what slaves would say but also morons.
Regards
DL
boltupright
Greatest I am
Posted on: 03/09/2010 14:40
I think DL is just trying to bring to the table how some look at scripture literally, so if there are those out there that do, may come in a say why they believe contrary to what DL expresses.
Open forum,,, right?
Bolt
Thanks.
Have you noticed the slave mentality.
He made us so he can kill us.
This is not only what slaves would say but also morons.
Regards
DL
Well, it is about conditioning isn't it?
It goes both ways my friend, the world & the church each do their fair share of conditioning.
Bolt
Tyson
boltupright wrote: Well since
Posted on: 03/09/2010 14:52
Well since you have this wonderful ability to read into a man's motive, I'll just leave it at that then.
Bolt
And you aren't guilty of that, are you Bolt?
boltupright
consumingfire V3.0
Posted on: 03/09/2010 14:55
Well since you have this wonderful ability to read into a man's motive, I'll just leave it at that then.
Bolt
And you aren't guilty of that, are you Bolt?
If I have been in error my friend, I'll be the first to apologize.
Bolt
Tyson
Greatest I am wrote: Rev.
Posted on: 03/09/2010 14:55
Why this guy insists on challenging literalistic interpretations of the Bible on a forum where the vast majority of people don't hold to a literalist view of the Bible is a mystery I'll leave it to God to explain!
Thanks for not speaking to the issue.
That really shows the non literal view.
Regards
DL
And you have yet to defend why you argue from a literalist view, when you claim that you are not a literalist. Either you are a liar or you are extremely confused.
Tyson
.
Posted on: 03/09/2010 14:57
.
Tyson
boltupright
Posted on: 03/09/2010 14:59
Well since you have this wonderful ability to read into a man's motive, I'll just leave it at that then.
Bolt
And you aren't guilty of that, are you Bolt?
If I have been in error my friend, I'll be the first to apologize.
You constantly read into Jesus' motives.
boltupright
Please point out any error &
Posted on: 03/09/2010 14:59
Please point out any error & I'll respond with good cheer.
Bolt
boltupright
If you like, you can use that
Posted on: 03/09/2010 15:02
If you like, you can use that lable of Bolt, but please if you do, be sure to be accurate in all you speak here, & anywhere.
Bolt
boltupright
You are making accusations
Posted on: 03/09/2010 15:04
You are making accusations without presenting any evidence, the world testifies against you, as even the world will offer even corrupted evidence.
Brother.
Bolt
Tyson
boltupright wrote: If you
Posted on: 03/09/2010 15:04
If you like, you can use that lable of Bolt, but please if you do, be sure to be accurate in all you speak here, & anywhere.
Bolt
Why the hell would I do that? What does that even mean?
Tyson
boltupright wrote: You are
Posted on: 03/09/2010 15:05
You are making accusasions without presenting any evidence, the world testifies against you, as even the world will offer even corrupted evidence.
Bolt
Horse shit. Anybody can read any one of your posts and see that you read into Jesus' motives. The evidence is in your posts, Bolt.
Tyson
boltupright wrote: You are
Posted on: 03/09/2010 15:06
You are making accusations without presenting any evidence, the world testifies against you, as even the world will offer even corrupted evidence.
Brother.
Bolt
I could give a shit what the world does.
boltupright
consumingfire V3.0
Posted on: 03/09/2010 15:07
If you like, you can use that lable of Bolt, but please if you do, be sure to be accurate in all you speak here, & anywhere.
Bolt
Why the hell would I do that? What does that even mean?
You edit your post & now you present a false sense?
You presented a responce to me & used my lable at the end & now it's gone, are you the only one who can edit your posts?
I read every word you present to me brother.
Bolt
boltupright
consumingfire V3.0
Posted on: 03/09/2010 15:08
You are making accusations without presenting any evidence, the world testifies against you, as even the world will offer even corrupted evidence.
Brother.
Bolt
I could give a shit what the world does.
That is the problem.
Bolt
Ichthys
Not guilty. It seems that God
Posted on: 03/09/2010 23:34
Not guilty. It seems that God has set up rules NOT to interfere in human decision-making. he wants REAL people on his side who decide for him based on their own will not because he manipulates them.
Hope you read it
Tyson
boltupright
Posted on: 03/09/2010 15:16
If you like, you can use that lable of Bolt, but please if you do, be sure to be accurate in all you speak here, & anywhere.
Bolt
Why the hell would I do that? What does that even mean?
You edit your post & now you present a false sense?
You presented a responce to me & used my lable at the end & now it's gone, are you the only one who can edit your posts?
I read every word you present to me brother.
Bolt
Actually, the post with the dot is because when I hit the quote button, everything gets messed up (figures that happens on a gia thread). I would prefer that every word is attributed to the proper poster. As such, I posted my response right below the empty post. So, Bolt, before you read into my motives, find out why I did why I did. You wanted evidence, there it is.
Tyson
boltupright
Posted on: 03/09/2010 15:14
You are making accusations without presenting any evidence, the world testifies against you, as even the world will offer even corrupted evidence.
Brother.
Bolt
I could give a shit what the world does.
That is the problem.
Bolt
Actually, it's not the problem at all.
boltupright
consumingfire V3.0
Posted on: 03/09/2010 15:17
If you like, you can use that lable of Bolt, but please if you do, be sure to be accurate in all you speak here, & anywhere.
Bolt
Why the hell would I do that? What does that even mean?
You edit your post & now you present a false sense?
You presented a responce to me & used my lable at the end & now it's gone, are you the only one who can edit your posts?
I read every word you present to me brother.
Bolt
Actually, the post with the dot is because when I hit the quote button, everything gets messed up (figures that happens on a gia thread). I would prefer that every word is attributed to the proper poster. So, Bolt, before you read into my motives, find out why I did why I did. You wanted evidence, there it is. My post below the dot is the actual post.
I have not presented any claim of motive, as all are questions my friend & brother.
I spotted you post & it was ended with my lable, friend & brother.
Now it's gone so either you edited it out of one of your posts, or I was mistaken.
Which is it?
Bolt
boltupright
consumingfire V3.0
Posted on: 03/09/2010 15:19
You are making accusations without presenting any evidence, the world testifies against you, as even the world will offer even corrupted evidence.
Brother.
Bolt
I could give a shit what the world does.
That is the problem.
Bolt
Actually, it's not the problem at all.
So, you are neither your brother's keeper, neither a solution to any problems then?
Bolt
Tyson
boltupright
Posted on: 03/09/2010 15:23
If you like, you can use that lable of Bolt, but please if you do, be sure to be accurate in all you speak here, & anywhere.
Bolt
Why the hell would I do that? What does that even mean?
You edit your post & now you present a false sense?
You presented a responce to me & used my lable at the end & now it's gone, are you the only one who can edit your posts?
I read every word you present to me brother.
Bolt
Actually, the post with the dot is because when I hit the quote button, everything gets messed up (figures that happens on a gia thread). I would prefer that every word is attributed to the proper poster. So, Bolt, before you read into my motives, find out why I did why I did. You wanted evidence, there it is. My post below the dot is the actual post.
I have not presented any claim of motive, as all are questions my friend & brother.
I spotted you post & it was ended with my lable, friend & brother.
Now it's gone so either you edited it out of one of your posts, or I was mistaken.
Which is it?
Bolt
Oy. I am going to explain it one more time. When I hit the quote button, the quotes came up out of order. I would prefer that all words are attributed to their proper poster (this didnot happen in that particular post). As such, I edited that post to make it blank and created a NEW post where the words were attributed to their rightful poster. Basically it's like this.....it's a quote feature issue. Cleared up for you now, Bolt?
Tyson
boltupright
Posted on: 03/09/2010 15:25
You are making accusations without presenting any evidence, the world testifies against you, as even the world will offer even corrupted evidence.
Brother.
Bolt
I could give a shit what the world does.
That is the problem.
Bolt
Actually, it's not the problem at all.
So, you are neither your brother's keeper, neither a solution to any problems then?
Bolt
No, actually, I am not my brother's keeper. I do my part to help those in need with the resourses my wife and I have. The question is, do I care what the world thinks of me? Nope.
boltupright
Great, I guess we are
Posted on: 03/09/2010 15:27
Great, I guess we are done?
The thing is, that wasn't the question realy.
Unless you have more to say?
Bolt
boltupright
boltupright wrote: Great, I
Posted on: 03/09/2010 15:29
Great, I guess we are done?
The thing is, that wasn't the question realy.
I don't care what the world thinks of me either.
I do care how people see me though if I am to say I represent the Spirit of God.
I'm done, unless you have more to say?
Bolt