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Secular law is better than God’s law. How did that happen?
Posted on: 10/02/2009 15:41
Secular law is better than God’s law. How did that happen?
You do not have to b e a rocket scientist to recognize that Secular law has bested Religious laws.
This may be why even Muslims and Christians are choosing Secular laws when available.
Why?
Because Secular law is more forgiving and logical as opposed to Religious law.
Secular law demands and allows equality of women, Gays and slaves. Religious laws do not yet do not give a good logic trail for discriminating against these sub groups of our societies.
As our knowledge of life has increased, Secular laws have evolved and improved as opposed to Religious laws that have been stagnant and fixed over time.
This stagnation of old laws ensure that over time, Secular laws will win out over Religious laws for our hearts and minds.
As they should.
I do recognize the good that Churches do in terms of community but if they do not evolve their laws, they are bound to fail. This is likely why most religions have split into various sects depending on the secular progression of the individual communities and religious sects. Most religions today have their hot , medium or soft adherents and sects and this split insures that secularism will increase while religions will shrink.
Are religious laws too entrenched and harsh?
Are secular laws too soft?
Looking at the big picture, am I correct in stating that secularism will win out over religions?
If secularism does win, is that a good thing?
Are women, Gays and slaves better served by secularism or religion?
Regards
DL
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MC jae
Greatest I am
Posted on: 10/02/2009 15:57
Secular law demands and allows equality of women, Gays and slaves. Religious laws do not yet do not give a good logic trail for discriminating against these sub groups of our societies.
First, you're going to have to identify just which religion(s) you're talking about.
The secular which-nations-laws? Are you speaking about Canadian laws? North American? Just what nations are you referring to??
Again, which religion? Whose secular laws?
=A=
Alex
Don't confuse God's laws with
Posted on: 10/02/2009 21:01
Don't confuse God's laws with Church laws.
Secular law is better then church law because on principle it derives part of it's authority from a Parliment in which all citizens over 18 have part in selecting.
Church laws are made with imput from those who are representative of a small minority of people which excludes representation or imput from most people. In the Roman Catholic Church they just ignore everyone outside the Vatican. While in many United Churches we just exclude people from being able to join or remain members, so the local boards which make church law just pretends that the rest of the world does not exists.
Its hard to make laws or interprite laws if you continue to poke your eyes out, cover your ears and bury your head in the sand as the churches do.
chansen
Greatest I am wrote: Are
Posted on: 10/02/2009 21:17
Are women, Gays and slaves better served by secularism or religion?
I'm a secularist, and I treat my slaves very well.
Look, religious laws are old, first edition attempts to keep people in line. Of course they're archaic. Many of the religious don't even subscribe to them. I don't know that you had to create a thread to point out that new laws that have evolved and are based on the input of many, are superior to old laws based on what some guy wrote hundreds or thousands of years ago.
Except, of course, the laws I don't agree with. They suck.
Kinst
I guess I don't really
Posted on: 10/02/2009 22:29
I guess I don't really believe that religious law came from God in the first place. Some things are so petty and silly. Mosaic law? I can't believe that God ever cared about crop rotation or sex or shaving or polyblend. It's too ridiculous. I think people wrote these things a long time ago and said it was God.
Witch
Since no one can point to
Posted on: 10/03/2009 00:06
Since no one can point to anything better than a belief that one set or another is "God's" law...
What you're really asking is religious law in comparison to secular law.
Mate
There were two sets of law in
Posted on: 10/03/2009 17:47
There were two sets of law in ancient Israel. They had the famous ten that tradition says were handed down on Mount Sinai. Who knows? They are the basic laws. The second set were part of the holiness code which was more of a list of cult regulations. There were somee 600 plus.
Except for the first couple in the ten the rest are fairly common around the world even today; no murder, love your neighbour only leave his wife alone, don't lie, etc.
http://www.whosoever.org/v5i2/steve.html
Shalom
Mate
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Aquaman Secular laws wherever
Posted on: 10/08/2009 15:44
Aquaman
Secular laws wherever English and French are generally spoken . All western and developed nations.
Religions - generally Christianity and Islam.
Regards
DL
Greatest I am
Alex wrote: Don't confuse
Posted on: 10/08/2009 15:45
Don't confuse God's laws with Church laws.
Secular law is better then church law because on principle it derives part of it's authority from a Parliment in which all citizens over 18 have part in selecting.
Church laws are made with imput from those who are representative of a small minority of people which excludes representation or imput from most people. In the Roman Catholic Church they just ignore everyone outside the Vatican. While in many United Churches we just exclude people from being able to join or remain members, so the local boards which make church law just pretends that the rest of the world does not exists.
Its hard to make laws or interprite laws if you continue to poke your eyes out, cover your ears and bury your head in the sand as the churches do.
Good view.
Regards
DL
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chansen I write because it
Posted on: 10/08/2009 15:47
chansen
I write because it would likely surprise you to know how many choose religious laws over secular laws.
Regards
DL
Greatest I am
Kinst wrote: I guess I don't
Posted on: 10/08/2009 15:50
I guess I don't really believe that religious law came from God in the first place. Some things are so petty and silly. Mosaic law? I can't believe that God ever cared about crop rotation or sex or shaving or polyblend. It's too ridiculous. I think people wrote these things a long time ago and said it was God.
You would be right.
Nothing has ever been said or written about God that was not said or written by a man.
I like to say that the first God was a man and the last will be as well.
Regards
DL
Greatest I am
Mate wrote: There were two
Posted on: 10/08/2009 15:54
There were two sets of law in ancient Israel. They had the famous ten that tradition says were handed down on Mount Sinai. Who knows? They are the basic laws. The second set were part of the holiness code which was more of a list of cult regulations. There were somee 600 plus.
Except for the first couple in the ten the rest are fairly common around the world even today; no murder, love your neighbour only leave his wife alone, don't lie, etc.
http://www.whosoever.org/v5i2/steve.html
Shalom
Mate
The problem with the big 10 is that God Himself can't follow them.
Sodom and the flood are good examples of the law maker breaking His own laws.
Some believe He has that right but I don't think so.
That is a bad example.
Regards
DL