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Still today?
Posted on: 01/29/2009 17:36
In the Bible...
Jesus taught with power and authority. Does he still today?
...Jesus had power and authority over sin. Does he still today?
...Jesus had power and authority over nature. Does he still today?
...Jesus had power and authority over death. Does he still today?
...Jesus had power and authority over sickness. Does he still today?
...Jesus had power and authority over the demonic. Does he still today?
Please reply with personal examples.
Peace in Christ.
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seeler
-jubilee- wrote: In the
Posted on: 01/29/2009 18:38
In the Bible...
Jesus taught with power and authority. Does he still today?
...Jesus had power and authority over sin. Does he still today?
...Jesus had power and authority over nature. Does he still today?
...Jesus had power and authority over death. Does he still today?
...Jesus had power and authority over sickness. Does he still today?
...Jesus had power and authority over the demonic. Does he still today?
Please reply with personal examples.
Peace in Christ.
Rather than say that Jesus had power, I would say that God's power flowed through Jesus.
Yes, Jesus teachings still have power and authority today.
Power over sin - this is not a concept that I'm familiar with. Jesus had power to show God's love. God's love can overcome evil.
Jesus showed us that the Spirit can never die. The Spirit is alive and with us today.
Many people today find healing and comfort in the love of God as revealed in Jesus.
I believe that love can reach the mentally ill and make a difference in their lives.
Personal examples. I remember a motherless girl, lost and believing that she was alone in the world, headed in the wrong direction and the love of God turned her around, taught her that she was loved and valued, gave her a purpose in life and a reason to live, lifted her out of depression, healed her physical illness, and showed her a place in the world. I know her. I know what a difference God's love made in her life. I know because that girl was me.
stardust
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Posted on: 01/29/2009 22:08
Atheisto
ahahahaha no.
Posted on: 01/29/2009 22:25
ahahahaha no.
Pilgrim
To quote Innawhimsey " It
Posted on: 01/30/2009 01:33
To quote Innawhimsey " It doesn't matter if God exists or not because all I can ever know are my experiences(and any experience I have of God belongs to me). Those are what I can work with. Ferinstance, even if God is supposed to be Omnipotent, all I can work with is non-omnipotent, because that is what I experience"
Thank you, Seeler, for sharing your experience of God with us. Perhaps someday even Athiesto may experience the love of God.
Albert Einstein spoke strongly of "the harmony of natural law, which reveals an intelligence of such superiority that, compared with it, all the systematic thinking and acting of human beings is an utterly insignificant reflection."
While you may not believe there is a God, Athiesto, would you concede the fact that creation is a result of some sort of intelligence?
Witch
You might want to consider
Posted on: 01/30/2009 02:02
You might want to consider that the word "creation" is meaningless to an Atheist. Asking an Atheist to concede that something meaningless is a result of something he has no reason to believe in is rather an exercise in futility.
If you want to get an Atheist to concede to anything, a good place to start is in using neutral terminology.
Pilgrim
I will rephrase the question
Posted on: 01/30/2009 22:08
I will rephrase the question Athiesto. Will you concede that the universe as we know it is the result of some sort of intelligence?
killer_rabbit79
Pilgrim wrote: Will you
Posted on: 01/31/2009 00:55
Will you concede that the universe as we know it is the result of some sort of intelligence?
How the hell can a universe that favours chaos have any sort of intelligence to it? How does a tree which exhibits random growth in its branches look designed? Why don't we all look like we came from cookie cutters?
Energy can change forms but it cannot be created or destroyed, says the first law of thermodynamics. You cannot make something from nothing so why should god be able to? The universe must've existed for an infinite amount of time, and should be existing for an infinite amount of time to come.
Neo
killer_rabbit79 wrote:Energy
Posted on: 01/31/2009 01:45
You're stepping into a conundrum when you say things like "the universe must've existed for an infinite amount of time ..." since time itself was not before the universe came into being! With the creation and expansion of what we call matter came the creation of space and of time. Before then, God only knows.
MrMatt
Pilgrim wrote: Will you
Posted on: 01/31/2009 02:41
Will you concede that the universe as we know it is the result of some sort of intelligence?
What intelligence? I have heard the argument before that "the universe is so (complex, ordered, beautiful, intricate, etc), that it must have been designed by some kind of intelligence.
Well, if so, who created that intelligence? And who created the thing that created the intelligence that created the universe?
killer_rabbit79
Neo wrote: You're stepping
Posted on: 01/31/2009 11:30
You're stepping into a conundrum when you say things like "
the universe must've existed for an infinite amount of time ...
" since time itself was
not
before the universe came into being! With the creation and expansion of what we call matter came the creation of space and of time. Before then, God only knows.
I'm assuming that you are talking about the big bang here. Technically the universe still existed then, just as one particle. If we decide to but the Cartesian zero of time at the moment that the big bang happened, to the right we have the formation of the universe, all the way up to now and beyond to infinity and to the left, we have what the universe was when it was this one particle and what it may have been before, to infinity.
bygraceiam
Hello everyone God bless
Posted on: 01/31/2009 12:28
Hello everyone God bless you.......
And Praise the Lord , He Died on the Cross for everyone one of them....
IJL:bg
jensamember
In reponse to the orignal
Posted on: 01/31/2009 15:38
In reponse to the orignal question asked...yes.
He's (God, Jesus, the Holy Spirit) the same yesterday, today and forever...still available...people limit God, people put Him in a box, bring Him out when they need Him or want to blame Him for everything. His power is available today, things do happen everyday...but things of God aren't media friendly, people only want to hear about news, story and happenings that are in opposition to God.
InannaWhimsey
Avast, I am being quoted!
Posted on: 02/02/2009 01:36
Avast, I am being quoted! Thank you, Pilgrim (and eek, I see a typo on my part!)
jubilee: I say YES to all your notions. All believers are given the gift that through them, Jesus has action on Creation. That is a heady and mighty thing :3
MrMatt: welcome to paradise (the Canadian version). In regards to your musing over Pilgrim's notion on intelligence: try looking at it without the whole "G_d baggage". Got rid of it? Now, ponder over the possibility(s) of intelligence being behind/in some way responsible for at least some parts of universe or existence? Or somehow for all of existence? Take your time with this. Don't rush it. See what you can come up with.
Turning, spinning, laughing,
Inannawhimsey